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Stanislav Karpov2014-10-28 00:57:45
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Stanislav Karpov, 2014-10-28 00:57:45

What to choose: OS X or Linux, i.e. which laptop to buy?

A laptop is needed to work in PyCharm / Sublime Text + a standard multimedia set and a browser.

Now there is money for the Thinkpad X240 (Ubuntu and other branches of it). Should I wait and buy MB Air/Pro?

I'm familiar with OS X at the "poke-poke, wow, cool login screen" level.
Autonomy is not as critical as the stability and conciseness of the interface.

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s0ci0pat, 2014-10-28
@s0ci0pat

Briefly:
OS X - buy and use
Linux - buy and configure

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Markus Kelvin, 2014-10-28
@mmxdesign

MacbookPro ..... I always underestimated it until they gave it to me for free ... now I use it only ... (although there are also Sony and Lenovo)
But after the Mac I don’t want to approach them.
OS X has turned out to be such a stable and convenient OS that it is focused only on work ... you don't even notice it ... it's there and that's it. Practically does not freeze, after sleep it instantly wakes up and is ready for work. Less glitches in the OS.
It is not necessary to adjust anything....
PS. only then reseeding on Windu, you will constantly confuse CMD with ALT)

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Sergey Petrikov, 2014-10-28
@RicoX

@Sanes: I set up Linux every working day, a lot and different (mostly the server is true, but I know its guts well and have been sitting on it for a couple of years), the work is like this, I myself use a poppy for work, briefly the essence is conveyed by s0ci0pat very accurately. In order to get something similar to a poppy, you need to spend quality time with Linux for a week, and then repeat the process for each major update, if not completely, then for the most part. At least the weak points of Linux in comparison: alsa / pulse and in general the sound part without high-quality sex works crookedly, you can set it up normally, but you have to manually sort out half of the configs, Skype - it's terrible on Linux, lack of a sane office suite, don't offer OO, it's good only for very simple and limited editing, and in general there is no working software, or it works only through wine and crooked, although it's native on mac. Let's go further: gestures, it's very convenient on a poppy, I threw out the mouse for 3 years and use only the magic trackpad at home, or the trackpad of the macbook on the road, tell me how to tie it to Linux with all the functions, and not just basic tapas? The time machine, it’s great, in order to set up the same convenient back-upper with bare metal support on Linux, you need to cross several products out of the box and tune it all in a quality manner, on a poppy 2 clicks, power consumption, I don’t want to breed holivars, but personally I don’t have any on my laptops it turned out to force Linux to eat less or the same amount. In the new version, integration with iPhones / iPads, well, Linux does not know how to receive a call from a mobile phone, etc. maybe I'm not aware, but I have not seen such a chip it’s very convenient on a poppy, I threw out the mouse for 3 years and use only the magic trackpad at home, or the macbook trackpad on the road, tell me how to tie it to Linux with all the functions, and not just basic tapas? The time machine, it’s great, in order to set up the same convenient back-upper with bare metal support on Linux, you need to cross several products out of the box and tune it all in a quality manner, on a poppy 2 clicks, power consumption, I don’t want to breed holivars, but personally I don’t have any on my laptops it turned out to force Linux to eat less or the same amount. In the new version, integration with iPhones / iPads, well, Linux does not know how to receive a call from a mobile phone, etc. maybe I'm not aware, but I have not seen such a chip it’s very convenient on a poppy, I threw out the mouse for 3 years and use only the magic trackpad at home, or the macbook trackpad on the road, tell me how to tie it to Linux with all the functions, and not just basic tapas? The time machine, it’s great, in order to set up the same convenient back-upper with bare metal support on Linux, you need to cross several products out of the box and tune it all in a quality manner, on a poppy 2 clicks, power consumption, I don’t want to breed holivars, but personally I don’t have any on my laptops it turned out to force Linux to eat less or the same amount. In the new version, integration with iPhones / iPads, well, Linux does not know how to receive a call from a mobile phone, etc. maybe I'm not aware, but I have not seen such a chip and not just basic tapas? The time machine, it’s great, in order to set up the same convenient back-upper with bare metal support on Linux, you need to cross several products out of the box and tune it all in a quality manner, on a poppy 2 clicks, power consumption, I don’t want to breed holivars, but personally I don’t have any on my laptops it turned out to force Linux to eat less or the same amount. In the new version, integration with iPhones / iPads, well, Linux does not know how to receive a call from a mobile phone, etc. maybe I'm not aware, but I have not seen such a chip and not just basic tapas? The time machine, it’s great, in order to set up the same convenient back-upper with bare metal support on Linux, you need to cross several products out of the box and tune it all in a quality manner, on a poppy 2 clicks, power consumption, I don’t want to breed holivars, but personally I don’t have any on my laptops it turned out to force Linux to eat less or the same amount. In the new version, integration with iPhones / iPads, well, Linux does not know how to receive a call from a mobile phone, etc. maybe I'm not aware, but I have not seen such a chip In the new version, integration with iPhones / iPads, well, Linux does not know how to receive a call from a mobile phone, etc. maybe I'm not aware, but I have not seen such a chip In the new version, integration with iPhones / iPads, well, Linux does not know how to receive a call from a mobile phone, etc. maybe I'm not aware, but I have not seen such a chip
What is better in Linux, so as not to be one-sided: the server part, setting up a full-fledged LNAMP on a poppy, for example, is another task, and in general the number of administration options in Linux is an order of magnitude larger and better, any server options, while on a poppy even samba works clumsily out of the box. Routing capabilities - it's a very non-trivial task on a poppy to do what it can't do out of the box, for example, multiple tables with shaping and its own traffic priorities, bridges, tunnels, etc. Documentation on the guts, Linux is open for the most part, something does not plow, there is a dock, a community, at the very least source codes, if you wish, you can finish almost everything, on a poppy, what Apple screwed on, then it plows, any step to the side is either not possible or very crooked and hemorrhoids. And the last thing I immediately remembered, for me personally,
For myself, I found a poppy to be optimal, as the main system with Linux installed on a virtual machine, for those tasks that are more difficult / longer to do under a poppy, well, I’m dragging myself with the assembly quality of Makovsky iron, I haven’t completely lost the quality standards laid down under Jobs, although If we compare releases, for example, 2011/2012 and 2014, then in 2014, in my opinion, the quality has become worse.

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bahek2462774, 2014-10-28
@bahek2462774

I also faced the same choice. Chose AIR - did not regret.

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Alexey Kot, 2014-10-28
@CheshireCat

Even if you are confused about installing Linux on a Mac, choose a MacBook anyway. I sat on Windows laptops for a very long time and felt great, until it became necessary to program for Mac and the decision was made to buy a used MacBook. And then I went nuts from iron, how securely everything was assembled, what a convenient touchpad and other little things.
Now selling my Zenbook to get a MacBook Pro Retina. And I want to change my wife's 15 "Sony Vaio laptop to a macbook, even if I put Windows on it for her to work. Sony was generally upset with its quality, the laptop was bought last year for over 50k rubles and on the second day the keys began to fall off. Asus Zenbook me pleased, but there is no that solidity, as in a poppy, the same keys bend.

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Denis Ineshin, 2014-10-28
@IonDen

Macbook Pro 13 retina is a wonderful thing.
- There is enough power for anything
- Ease of use is beyond praise (people familiar with the Makovsky touchpad will support it)
- Autonomy is just a plague, you can work for 9 hours and generally forget that the laptop is not connected to charging.

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Sergey Lerg, 2014-10-28
@Lerg

Definitely Mac.

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