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alex0x002017-06-09 14:29:59
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alex0x00, 2017-06-09 14:29:59

Upwork (Upwork): how to withdraw funds received as an individual (before registering an individual entrepreneur)?

1. If a couple of k$ hangs on Upwork and some of them were received even before the IP was registered (that is, being in the status of an individual), then how to land them all on the account of a newly registered IP on the USN 6% / patent?
2. What date of acceptance to put in the Upwork offer (the offer is submitted to the bank for passing the VC):
a) the date of registration on the site or the date of the last offer (it changes from time to time) when he was still an individual;
b) date >= date of IP registration.
3. Is it necessary to indicate the payment details (transit account) of the individual entrepreneur in the offer and in the Confirmation of Services?
4. Legally terminating the offer = closing the account on Upwork? Is it possible to somehow terminate the offer in order to accept it again or somehow re-accept without closing the account? If re-acceptance is possible, a new contract is obtained, respectively, it is always possible to avoid issuing a transaction passport in the future.
5. If you accept the offer while still being an individual, and then work on it as an individual entrepreneur, is there a legal contradiction on their and our sides (I understand that on our side this will always be evident and raise questions (why the offer was accepted before the registration of the individual entrepreneur ?), nevertheless, IP in terms of obligations = individuals, right)?
PS If you are of the opinion that the funds hanging on Upwork are candy wrappers, i.e. not yet income (there are deep discussions on this topic on the forum, for which many thanks to these guys), respectively, VAT is not paid for the Upwork commission, and the movement of funds (candy wrappers) inside Upwork can be seen anywhere, then issue number 1 is solved simply, because according to Confirmation of Services, the date of availability of funds (wrappers) on the account for further withdrawal to the account is not set, i.e. what was previously received as an individual can be withdrawn later as a received individual entrepreneur?

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Sergey, 2017-06-09
@skozlovf

2. What date of acceptance to put in the Upwork offer

date = date of registration of IP.
I think it depends on the bank. They didn't ask me, I just signed.
I think it's also worth asking your bank. In general, people seem to "renew" the offer when new changes are published. It’s not clear to me here myself, because the offer is considered accepted from the moment of registration on the site.
And is it necessary to avoid the transaction passport?
It turns out that earlier we worked as an individual, and then we became an individual entrepreneur and accepted the offer on behalf of the individual entrepreneur (therefore, the date of acceptance = the date of registration of the individual entrepreneur). There are no contradictions.
Just transfer to r / s, like the rest of the money. Further development of events depends on how it is decided to keep records of income. If, from the moment of receipt to the transit account, the tax office does not ask for primary documents, or somehow it turns out to be limited to CoS and an offer, then there will be no problems, because the real date of receipt of that part of $2k is not visible. If you keep from the moment you unlock the upwork on your account or if the tax somehow finds out the real date, then most likely they will be asked to pay some taxes and penalties. In general terms, something like this.
So we didn't find out.)

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Puma Thailand, 2017-06-09
@opium

Just don't land and this will immediately answer all questions

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Vitaliy Jakim, 2017-07-17
@Jakim

You can register in the payoneer payment system, https://share.payoneer.com/nav/2-uy5Gj6MJ2OZpSVAF5... order a card to your home address, withdraw funds there and withdraw at any convenient ATM at their exchange rate. And you will be happy, and you will not have to report for the money you earn. The link is my referral, for registering on it +25$ to the account (which will come as soon as the account has more than $100), you will just pay the annual rate of the payoneer system. And then, if you want to continue using it, if you want to throw away this card, they charge a fee for using it only with a positive account balance.

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