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Is it true that the web development market is “overheated”?
From a recent topic about the IT market, many people answered that in general the situation in the market is normal, but the web development market is very overheated. I myself am engaged in web development, I have not changed my job for a long time, but I want to grow. After all these messages, it’s somehow scary to break away from a “warm” place. Please tell us about your experience.
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100% overheated, but not by programmers or webmasters, but by individuals who decide that the web is simple and easy and you shouldn't worry too much about your skills and knowledge.
"Ko-ko-ko, lack of good employees" - repeat one after another the white people. The second topic of the day with template answers like a blueprint. At the same time, each such macaque considers itself to be a "good employee", worthy of at least half a million rubles a month salary.
Of course, the web development market is overheated. The barrier to entry is low. Kilotons of manuals in Russian and fables about rich IT people attract everyone here. These crowds may, initially, do a really bad job, but most will no doubt become very acceptable programmers. And the market will be overheated even more.
Here are the guys that were noted in this topic, they are all so stupid that they are digging their own grave, shouting at the entire Internet about "deficiency". Without realizing it, they create competitors for themselves. For example - go to some business forum and ask any user who is engaged in business - "how do you earn money?" No idiot will tell you a secret. Never. It's only among IT people that it's customary to blow the entire Ivanovo about the shortage. And in 10 years, more than half of these monkeys will go to work in a taxi, because the market will be shamelessly crowded with people with quite ordinary knowledge.
And do not forget about time - in N years, everyone who is now "on horseback" will become recyclable, because the industry does not stand still and your knowledge will depreciate. What a laugh it will be when, after 10 years of hard work, you SUDDENLY realize that the industry has rushed forward, and you are all on the [required_enter] code. Bygygy.
Overheated... shitcoders, tyzhprogrammers.
And all thanks to the govnogugr professing the govnocourses "Learn Japanese in ten minutes."
There are few sensible
What do you understand by overheating?
Full of work. There is a total shortage of good personnel. If you are talking about it.
There is room to grow. To begin with, I would set the bar at $50/hour on an ongoing basis, ie. about $8000 per month. I know web developers who really get that much. When you reach this level, you can already think about where to grow further, but it is unlikely that a board on the Internet will help you.
It's simple, there is a lot of competition at the entrance, so employers can choose according to the ratio of how much they ask / quality, prospects.
With further development, there is a shortage of truly qualified developers, since most of the potential employees fall off at the entry stage.
From this conclusion: it is difficult to enter, and in the future, with development, there will be a very good demand for such a specialist.
But it also depends on the direction in which the specialist himself will go and in what ways he will develop, and whether he will be at all.
Good employees do not overheat, but on the contrary, it seems to me that there is a shortage. But there are a lot of white people.
So take it yourself and check it out.
Post your resume and look at the quantity/quality of job offers. So evaluate the market and your opportunities.
And your question will now receive diametrically opposed opinions, 100% )
Please tell us about your experience.
1) What is your stack?
2) How many years of work experience?
3) Was there an official job as a programmer?
4) Was there an official employment in an IT company?
If you officially worked as a proger in an adequate it-company, then, as they say:
"In the hands of a blue techie diploma and all the doors are open to you." For once you officially worked as a proger, you are valued above 99.9% of bio-garbage that is trying to become an IT specialist.
If you have everything "I'm sitting at home, drinking something on my knee, I want a job and cool projects," then 99.9% of all employers will reject you at the stage of a cursory review of your resume.
So it is - many rushed to the web. Few people want to get a job as a loader for a penny, so they sit and teach. So soon movers will get more web programmers)
As an employer, I can say that there is a shortage, and the further it goes, the more acute it becomes.
It’s easy to find a starter, but there are few people for an adult project with a bunch of agreements. Accordingly, each verified employee is worth its weight in gold.
If you are truly special, you will always have a job and a very well paid one. And if, you only know html css and a couple of php cms - hold on to your heated place with 2 hands.
Yes, everything is fine with the market. Everyone who believed in the magic of blockchain and mobile applications realized that it is poorly monetized, and so far little has been invented better than the web. Now they will cool down a little from the bots. Enterprises that had business card sites understand that it would be good to work with orders in CRM, and integrate processes in the company. There are more and more areas related to IT. In Russia, many people now understand that they need to grow towards the web, not all the pieces of the pie have been divided there yet.
It's just that the demand from business card sites goes to new forms. And this is at least online stores and solutions for automating services. And here competences are already slightly different.
In ancient times, there were shoemakers who made shoes and tailors who made clothes - there was only individual tailoring. Then there were factories and stores filled up with finished products. Where are these shoemakers and tailors now? There are only a few left, either especially talented, or those who repair boots and clothes - they will change the heel there or put a patch.
The same trend is in web development, everything goes the same way. And by analogy, three categories of developers emerge:
1) Very qualified for an individual project.
2) Employees of factories or galleys.
3) Support and maintenance of already finished projects.
Private business also counts money. The goal of a business is not to make a web project, they all have the same goal - sales. And how this will be done, these are already details. And the business will use the method that will generate more sales for less money. For example, if it is a student with leaflets on the way, then other channels will not receive money at all or will receive much less.
While the Internet is convenient and nothing better has been invented. But the Internet may eventually become a Googlenet or a Facenet, and a lot of specialists will be out of work.
Therefore, you should always keep your nose to the wind and monitor the trends where it all moves.
Those who make unique things that only a few can do always make good money. Whoever does the same as everyone else receives like everyone else, i.e. few. For example, for those who make typical WordPress sites, the market is clearly overheated. Because there are thousands of them.
Just look at the freelance exchange and the high competition for a project of 500 rubles. There are a whole cloud of Webers
The web has matured a lot in recent years, the enterprise has come here with all the consequences. How to rivet landing pages on jQuery in the 200s and get a good gesheft does not work anymore. You need to know, understand, be able and be able to do a lot at once, learn on the go, delve into, refactor tons of legacy, etc., otherwise it’s extremely difficult to get into a normal team/project. Well, there are a lot of vacancies for food, but they don’t take everyone there either, you still need to understand something ...
Overheated by beginners, but lack of seniors. Not even every middle is a middle in fact. My personal subjective understanding: a middle with 2 years of experience is not really a middle, but just a good junior. It takes 5 years to become a middle, and 10 years to become a senior. Everyone who shouts that they are seniors but they do not have 10 years in the field (obtaining a specialized education is also included in these 10 years) - they are very good middles.
10,000 hours (this is 5 years of hard work from 40 hours a week) is, as they say in the Internet, the time for which you can become a professional. But without specialized education, you need not 10k but 20k. Those. you stupidly 5 years learning everything new.
5k hours is just a sure level. You know, but not everything, and what you don't know - you can figure it out yourself.
The only "overheated" market is the market for layout and landing on WordPress.
Note the total one-sidedness of the answers.
The market is overheated, including many different it-firms of varying degrees of one-day.
Selling the work of a proger to the west for 5-6 kilodollars, giving the proger himself is good if 2, it's so tasty, isn't it? But there is one nuance - you still need to look for progers, since there are a lot of firms, and there are not enough programmers for rowing slaves for everyone. Hence the "overheating".
I don’t know how it is in Russia / CIS - maybe because of the sanctions and the colonial regime (investments are only in the exploitation of natural resources, and the profits of big capital, like resources, are exported abroad or squandered on luxury) the IT market is not very good. But in the West, salaries for specialists are growing and growing.
Secondly, people who know how to work and study and understand the sources of profit in a market economy (=exploitation of natural resources and labor) can always find a good income.
In this system of predators, you need to be the best in order to live NORMALLY and the best of the best in order to earn a minimum capital. And big capital is no longer connected with some kind of IT Skills.
By the way, one should also take into account the fact that “Waitishers” are not only those who decided to enter with the help of the YP, but also those who close a number of positions related to recruiting and management.
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