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Raul Abdullin2018-05-02 12:20:14
Health and computer
Raul Abdullin, 2018-05-02 12:20:14

How to treat IT people's backs?

I have been working with computers for many years. And it looks like he ditched his back. Often sitting on a chair, I feel pain, not strong, but very unpleasant. I go in for sports every day, it helps a little, but still. Moreover, if I start to straighten my back, a little sadness often occurs. I think this is an occupational disease and someone in this community must have come across it. How to treat this? I'm in Thailand now, the massage industry is very developed here, maybe it's worth taking a course?

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GavriKos, 2018-05-02
@GavriKos

Well yopt. Here you are an IT specialist. You know that questions on the topic should be asked to those who fumble in the subject, and not to download programming questions to translators. Go see a doctor! And he will tell you everything what and how is best for YOUR body.

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Saboteur, 2018-05-02
@saboteur_kiev

Go to the doctor, get a referral for an MRI.
Go to the MRI, take a picture.
Go to the doctor, understand what exactly you have with your back - a bruise, inflammation, pinched nerve, protrusion, hernia.
Listen to the doctor's recommendations on what to do about it. Decide how to live.
Just going to the gym without an MRI diagnosis, especially if you already have a hernia / protrusion, means killing your back completely. Going for a massage with a pinched nerve or inflammation makes little sense. There you need to wait, maybe even inject something if the inflammation has gone far and does not want to go away by itself.
In general, the first step is the diagnosis. Without it, it is better not to start anything at all.

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Renat Iliev, 2018-05-02
@IzeBerg

Gym + personal trainer + doctor.
Look after the general condition of the body and correct the jambs in it. Not fast, difficult, but will solve the source of the problem.

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sim3x, 2018-05-02
@sim3x

Massage, acupuncture, etc. = placebo
As long as it helps you psychologically - do
it But look for a way to fix the problem, not postpone it
Start by changing the chair
Then search for a normal English-speaking doctor with a license and a dead weight of 200 kg
Ideally, the doctor should identify the cause and draw up a program for you for a rocking chair, follow the progress of the process
An alternative to a rocking chair - swimming for long distances
Do not expect that everything will pass for me and I will quit sports and everything will be ok
www.barbellmedicine.com outside the subject of the resource

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Jacob E, 2018-05-02
@Zifix

I increment a knee chair, not necessarily an expensive one, Goblin has a good option in the store.

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Anton Kiselyov, 2018-05-02
@zamboga

Go to the doctor. I was in the clinics of Bubnovsky, Dikul, Chechil, "hello", and some 3-5 more, I don't remember the names. After "testing" all the doctors, I was treated by Chechil. I will advise you either him, or do the same - visit a dozen clinics and make your choice.
I also use a knee chair (medica zero) and do special back exercises every morning.

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Sergey Sokolov, 2018-05-02
@sergiks

Do not do Thai massage - they can make it much worse.
First, the diagnosis: consultation with a neurologist -> MRI -> consultation on the result.
If they begin to offer an operation, do not rush to agree.
In Moscow, from my personal experience, I recommend the Dikul clinic and the Open Clinic. In Berlin, if the money is not only for Thai, I can advise an excellent doctor.
Most likely, a set of exercises of physiotherapy exercises (LFK) will help. Exercises do not look cool, uninteresting, but effective. You need to learn how to do them correctly not from pictures, but personally with a coach.
And it is necessary to strengthen the muscular corset, which is lost during a long sedentary lifestyle.
Exercises should not create an axial load on the spine (compress it). This applies even to simple exercises with dumbbells. Don't lift heavy things. Lose weight.
Don't fall on your tailbone. Do not fall on a snowboard (for Thailand, of course, it is relevant:) Do not ride horses.
Real ergonomic chairs (not a cheap parody) with lumbar support can improve the situation, or at least slow it down. Take a look at Herman Miller products, for example. The chairs are super-reliable and durable, so the secondary market also offers them.
Take breaks from sedentary work. Watch your posture.

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latteo, 2018-05-03
@latteo

A doctor who helps with the spine is a vertebrologist.
You have to be more careful with sports, almost everything that several different trainers showed me in different rocking chairs to strengthen the back turned out to be extremely harmful from the point of view of a vertebrologist.
Warm-ups and exercises, including "yoga for the back", can also be harmful.
Useful sports are swimming and walking. With minor pathology - running.
After the treatment (MRI is normal), the doctor showed me what kind of exercises to do.

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DarthJS, 2018-05-03
@DarthJS

Those who advise doctors do not really rummage - complete garbage. Stupidly pumping money and no result. The problems started at the age of 30. I began to go to the doctors and I feel everyone hangs noodles worse than the previous one. Expensive long sessions. Sometimes it reached the point of absurdity. As a result, I went to a couple of appointments with a chiropractor and an osteopath, I think that's what it's called. The chiropractor said: only lazy people come to me, he helped more morally. Osteopvt after the first session relieved the pain, returned after another half a year for one session. Since then, I have been doing sports regularly, at least 2 times a week. Not just hands up and down, but an intense stash of the press and back (without weights, my personal sport is boxing and Thai boxing). Periodically exercises vacuum and squeezing the soft spot is to return the pelvis to the correct position. The funny thing is that the doctors I did an x-ray and an MRI, and neither the chiropractor nor the osteopath looked at him and clearly told everything - that's what I understand professionalism. Moral: don't quit

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Marina Doroshina, 2018-05-03
@Mari79

Since the age of 15, my lower back has been falling off, and I have undergone procedures, and massage, everything is temporary and very expensive. Now I bought a corset for myself. Much easier with him. are sold in any orthopedic store, but in general, the chair also affects the spine and back in general.

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Denis Yanchevsky, 2018-05-02
@deniscopro

Here's my opinion based on my experience:
Sport does not make the body healthier. Sport wears out the body and injures it.
If you really want to help yourself, go in for physical education, and better with specialized exercise therapy complexes, for example, for the lower back (I suppose that most likely it worries you).
Agree with Saboteur . Doing something without a diagnosis is the risk of making yourself worse. It may even be worth stopping the usual exercises in the gym until you find out the reason.
It is worth visiting a doctor, back pain is a neurologist.

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kp069, 2018-05-02
@kp069

In general, it does not matter what to sit on, sedentary work in itself does not affect the musculoskeletal system positively. It's just a matter of convenience. It is very important to maintain the natural curves of the spine when sitting. You can put a small roller under the lower back. My pain went away as soon as I began to sit correctly. Now I don’t care at all what to work on, on a chair from Herman Miller or an ordinary stool. I get up every 40 minutes and walk for 5 minutes.
When playing sports, it is also very important to maintain a neutral position of the spine. If you are training with a barbell, then do not chase the weights, take only the weight that you can control. Maintaining a neutral position of the spine during exercise is very important, otherwise the injury will not take long)

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Yan-s, 2018-05-02
@Yan-s

Change framework.
Seriously though, see a doctor.

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ZhanD, 2018-05-03
@ZhanD

I'll tell you from my bell tower. There is: an old injury with six months of lying on the bed and two years of treatment to the level I can, clenching my teeth in pain, work SITTING at the computer (I had to, family-child-monetary obligations). Well, and protrusion, as the end result. (In the future, I expect a hernia =))
Firstly, go for an MRI, secondly, with a picture, contact an excellent chiropractor concurrently with an osteopath (or go to specialized centers), thirdly, find out in great detail about everything and everything (Google to help, as well as thorough questions from the same therapist) , from him to receive a course of therapeutic exercises (usually they take about an hour of time) and sedately, slowly do them every day. Fourth, change the chair to a comfortable office chair. Adjust the chair to a comfortable level for your back. Fifthly, forget about the rocking chair, running, and in general any power and vigorous activities, until you have confidence in your back and then the load should be added gradually.
+ to this: drink plenty of water, not coffee with tea or juices, namely water; knead your back every hour; drink vitamins or eat more vegetables and fruits with vitamin C.
And of course, you will be prescribed a bunch of pills and ointments. Here we consult with the list from here. We carefully read about Chondroitins and caripain.
UPD: And I forgot to add, there is no point in going to a regular hospital. Usually they prescribe muscle relaxers and painkillers and that's it. No treatment, only short-term relief of symptoms.

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MisterParser, 2018-05-03
@MisterParser

Thai massage is not recommended. My back started to hurt after that. Apparently it is for healthy backs, and if there are already hernias, etc., then the massage should be some kind of special therapeutic one. I doubt that the secrets from those salons know how to do this and will generally understand what you want from them.

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Eva_kiberviking, 2018-05-03
@Eva_kiberviking

Everything has already been done ...
1. Make an MRI and understand the degree of damage
2. Start doing therapeutic massage and start strengthening the muscle corset with special exercises (the doctor will also recommend).
3. Don't exacerbate the problem by continuing to sit in the wrong position. Everything about the right workplace for back health is here: www.kiberviking.ru

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Maxim Timofeev, 2018-05-03
@webinar

I'm in Thailand now, the massage industry is very developed here, maybe it's worth taking a course?

Crushing the back with boobs and therapeutic massage are 2 big differences. There is no medicine in Thailand, so it's better to come home, go to the doctor, and then decide what to do next.
There are a lot of IT people in India, would you recommend ordering something there?

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Ilya Beloborodov, 2018-05-03
@kowap

I had it. Treated with 2 months of the gym.

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to_east, 2018-05-03
@to_east

It is necessary to carry out diagnostics, this is no question, what if you have a tumor or a pinched nerve in the lumbar region, gyms and yoga will only aggravate this situation

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Joysi, 2018-05-04
@joysi

From my own bell tower:
- An immoderate and uneven "rocking chair" in students (in the basements, with almost no warm-up - squats, deadlift)
- Work as a system administrator (sitting) + installation of equipment (you drive 6 hours in a car to the object, then unloading + mounting in racks 20 -30kg of all kinds of pieces of iron to one in conditions of construction sites, etc.)
- Frequent lower back pain + skew to the left in the morning (it was cool to look at yourself in the mirror)
Result: at the age of 35, he fell down and passed out from pain after such a raid when leaving the car . Then doctors + blockade + 2 weeks of recovery on injections -> MRI (protrusions + Schmorl's hernia). After consultation with a doctorregular moderate loads without weights are recommended + (hard orthopedic mattresses / low small pillows). I chose yoga (without fanaticism, from the initial levels, 80 min x 2 times a week) + banal exercises in the morning (min 10-15). Well, childish, of course, corny self-esteem rises when, at the age of 42, I made a bridge for a couple with my nephew :)
During sedentary work, I try to go out and “walk” at least once every hour and a half (to the coffee machine, go out into the yard for 5 minutes, do stretching yoga poses).

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