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iDusys2019-12-01 20:10:44
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iDusys, 2019-12-01 20:10:44

What motivates IT specialists besides salary?

Good evening!
I am an HR manager for an IT company. We are developers of Custom banking software. Our staff has doubled in six months and the question of motivation has become acute.
The salary is not below the market, I think this is important. There is VHI with dentistry. Ready to pay for ORACLE certification.
The staff is mainly Java developers, JS, system analysts, manual and autotesters.
Dear IT-specialists, tell us what is important for you when choosing an employer, what is important throughout the work. If you say interesting tasks, then what is the interestingness. Of course, I will also ask my colleagues. But one does not want to lag behind the situation on the "market".
Since my guys mostly work on the territory of the Customer, this complicates the issue of motivation.
I would be glad to hear your opinion. Maybe at your current job, your motivation system suits you completely and you are ready to share it.

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Robur, 2019-12-01
@Robur

up to 30 - self-assertion. norms of money to have enough for everything, cooler technologies, all these cookies, titles, the ability to walk with a proud air of self-importance and in general.
after 30 - the ability to do meaningful things, understand the value of time spent on work, professional growth (not in terms of learning another new technology), take responsibility for decisions and be aware of your contribution to what you spend your life on. All this works when the comfortable standard of living to which you are accustomed in the period up to 30 is naturally preserved.

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fdroid, 2019-12-01
@fdroid

In order of priority:
1) Money.
2) Interesting tasks.
3) As Sergei Gornostaev pointed out above - the possibility of professional growth.
But no matter how cool everything is, without decent pay, points 2 and 3 do not matter.

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Nikolay, 2019-12-01
@SODINNER

Eh, I read the answers and it becomes sad. In the words of my boss (who I still work for) "I had a lot of employees, and experienced, and who were just learning, but no one enjoyed the work. They did it because they had to, and not because they wanted to."
And as Confucius said: "Choose a job you like, and you will not have to work a single day in your life."
So, I personally do IT because I like it, it's interesting, exciting. Yes, no one will plow for 8 hours every day for free, but money is generally not the main thing in this profession, especially when the average salary is already good and it’s a sin to complain about it.
I consider it a huge plus that as an IT specialist, you can visit other companies, visit them, see what they do, how it all works from the inside. I recently configured a server for 350k rubles without having to buy it, it's cool to hold in your hands and deal with such expensive things without buying them.
In general, he expressed his opinion, and people who do their job, just because it's work, it's a pity.
I wish everyone to find a job to their liking, so that you can combine hobby and work.

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vism, 2019-12-02
@vism

Money and lack of effective managers. All.
All your social It is better to give free packages and cookies with money.
But yes, I read the comments and the answer of the author of the question
"If the project and responsibilities do not change in 3 years, why raise the salary, only indexation"
And everything became clear.
Baby, maybe it's you, effective managers, so you sit and do not develop for years. But we have it differently.
3 years of experience is approximately x2-x3 to the salary according to the market. We are constantly learning new things and the price of a developer is growing very quickly. Everyone has their own ceiling, of course, but if a person studies non-stop, there is no limit to the growth of qualifications and salaries.
That is why every year and a half I changed jobs, because. they didn’t raise salaries and such effective managers said, they say you won’t find such a salary as you want. Yes, but I always quit having an offer.
Raise your salary by 50% annually, that's the motivation. And all these VMIs, dinners and conferences are like a forest.

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Sergey Gornostaev, 2019-12-01
@sergey-gornostaev

For me, money comes first. In addition to them, they are motivated by the possibility of professional growth and the prestige of the work performed.

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Anton, 2019-12-02
@anton99zel

doesn't it seem strange to raise salaries again and again when responsibilities do not change?

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1. Prices are rising, including the prices of goods and services to carry out activities.
2. As a remote employee, I have to maintain and update equipment at my own expense, it is possible to buy software.
3. To be in trend, to get new knowledge - you need, among other things, to buy courses, educational literature, to reimburse the money spent on education.
Not unimportant is career growth, confidence in the future, comfortable working conditions. I know people who were given a salary of 0.5 M ₽ and a service apartment in the center of Moscow, and they still left for new projects. Why? Because the ceiling is reached, it becomes boring, depression appears, laziness, and even for this money they spoil your nerves and you cannot even leave for a week to rest.
Comfort is relative. For me, this is not a comfortable chair and unlimited coffee, but the ability to work from anywhere, at any time of the day, and I can treat one tooth every five years even without your VHI.
Programming is good up to a certain age, but what to do after 50 years old, when your brain no longer works as before, and any student will make you one or two? Naturally, on the career ladder you want to get to the chair of a manager, leader. And if such a ladder is not visible, then the salary will eventually cease to please.
In general, Java developers and banking systems are people-gods in my opinion))
Give them a car, vacation by the ocean for two months a year, rent a house and put money in an envelope of 300 thousand a month)))

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Lord_Dantes, 2019-12-02
@Lord_Dantes

As they say, for $10,000 you can understand someone else's code!

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Zhainar, 2019-12-02
@zhainar

Comfort matters the most. Comfort is created from many reasons, a good place to work, good working conditions, good colleagues, the ability not to think about money, stability, a certain level of freedom. It is important to be not indifferent to people, to find out their opinion about things. Of course, many will go where they pay more, that's just how long they will work there if they meet with a disregard. All the little things are important, more precisely, even one small detail can become a factor in leaving for another job.

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BobArctor, 2019-12-03
@BobArctor

1. Money
2. Lack of 2.71banats among managers and environment
3. Working with this company increases the market value of the specialist's time. (n years sawing services under tomcat and doing nothing else is the risk of being left with nothing)
4. Work-life balance

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ince, 2019-12-02
@ince

What motivates IT specialists besides salary

Anything other than a salary only motivates idiots.
In IT, there are on average a little less of them than in other areas.

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Decadal, 2019-12-02
@Decadal

I would be motivated to reduce working hours. It seems that Japan is experimenting with reducing working hours, which has led to extraordinary employee efficiency. Of course, we don’t have the same mentality at all, but very often I thought that I was earning money without understanding when I would finally stop at my frantic pace, freeze, think about what I could spend money on or where to relax. It would be very cool to have four working days a week, even with a pay cut.
You still can't work all forty hours a week effectively. But spending time with family or doing your hobbies - it helps me personally to have a good rest and then with great interest to delve into tasks and do my job

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OnYourLips, 2019-12-04
@OnYourLips

Never put money first.
Work is the place where a person spends the most time. Therefore, comfortable working conditions are above all. And that there was no demotivation.
Low salary demotivates, as if saying that you are a worthless specialist. But the high salary does not motivate. Therefore, a salary slightly above the market is sufficient.
The rest of the motivation will come from interesting projects, up-to-date technologies, extra vacation days, bonuses in the form of 13-14 salaries, food and beer in the office, well-organized corporate parties without a mandatory presence, budget for trainings, sports and travel.

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Anita Kovaleva, 2019-12-02
@Anitamsk

To all the comments above, a friend works in the Czech Republic, the employer has a very interesting approach to payments. If the employee does not "mow", does not get sick, does not spend VHI- annually, in addition to the annual bonus, the employer pays the average percentage of VHI as an incentive to employees (let's say the employer is ready to pay off VHI for each employee up to 100k of the amount indicated on the check from the hospital) Let's say in his company: an employee is sick and uses VHI - VHI extinguishes part of the employee's income, at the end of the year he receives an annual bonus with the rest, but does not receive compensation for VMI in the form of a "very tasty percentage" for the New Year's bonus. By the way, employees in his company, no matter what age from 18 to 50 years old, began to monitor their health very much. I heard this form factor for the first time, but as an idea - I liked it.

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xmoonlight, 2019-12-02
@xmoonlight

Dear IT-specialists, tell us what is important for you when choosing an employer, what is important throughout the work. If you say interesting tasks, then what is the interestingness.
1. Collaboration is important, not hiring (if you know what the difference is, great!)
2. Interesting tasks - they usually say not IT specialists, but marketers and HRs.
IT-specialists - say growth prospects, long-term contracts, remote jobs, the opportunity to improve themselves at work.
In a nutshell: the contractor (employee) produces a tool to increase income (this is a code) with a given efficiency (according to the business plan), the customer (company) - gives everything that the contractor asks for without loss.
By following this simple rule, you (the company) will be the first among the first!

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Vitaly, 2019-12-03
@vt4a2h

Here, many are not too happy with what the author of the question wrote, I will quote:
This is true only in part and with reservations. If we are talking about a linear developer who makes a set of tasks A, B, C, with a predictable result and impact on the business, then yes, this approach works. He can really raise his salary by $100-200 per year (which is approximately the indexation required by law) and he will be in seventh heaven. Plus there are corporate goodies, etc. And if a person has low self-esteem and no social skills ... I will not continue, this is a business after all.
Here's a universal recipe for success: a little more money every year + "free" buns. This is 95% of specialists, if not more. Which is even confirmed by the comments.
Another thing is if a person somehow influences profits or has a unique expertise, and even understands this. You cannot replace him as easily as the developer from the first paragraph, the losses can be large. But such a person just needs to be asked what he needs for happiness. Usually there are special meetings with the direct manager for this. Those. it is very individual.
There are still people who just like to work on something specific. Well, nothing else will motivate them.
Well, i.e. the company is a typical outsourcing / outstaff / consulting. In this case, developers not from the first category will also have to explain why they need such a company at all... Otherwise, the universal recipe for success will work!

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Developer, 2019-12-01
@samodum

The Eichars got here too. To drive you with a filthy broom back to / to your resources.
We are only interested in money.
Therefore, the winner is the employer who offers real 10 thousand, and does not ask "how much do you want?"

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zavodp, 2019-12-02
@zavodp

Everything was invented before us:
Maslov's Pyramid

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devalone, 2019-12-02
@devalone

The most important thing is the RFP and the interest of the project and tasks.
Everyone has their own, but I think everyone does not like routine.

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SerjNV, 2019-12-05
@SerjNV

1. In the first place, of course, money. This includes not only salary, but payment for overtime, weekends, holidays, deadlines (in general, it is desirable that they do not exist at all, although they are almost always).
2. Then comes the social program (sick leave, vacation pay, additional medical insurance)
3. Working conditions, this includes a lot, agree that working in a normal office is better than an open space without air conditioning and under a roof. Opportunity to eat well at lunchtime. Parking, even for example, the delivery of employees after the deitlan at two in the morning is a plus. And much more....
4. The adequacy of leaders. I met different people, there were those who used foul language every second word.

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lotse8, 2019-12-06
@lotse8

Everyone has their own motivators and everything is individual, but you want to solve a GENERAL problem that does not exist. There is no just a programmer, but there are Ivanov, Petrov and Sidorov. Ivanov has a mortgage and he needs nothing but money YET. Petrov has two apartments - they inherited them, and his wife's dad is rich and does not spare money for them, he needs to spend this money somewhere and sometime, i.e. Petrov needs more days off. Etc. Work with real people, don't look for a magic pill.

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