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Vladimir Kivva2012-12-10 00:42:36
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Vladimir Kivva, 2012-12-10 00:42:36

What is the best way to organize video surveillance?

Hello, we recently set the following task: There are two offices, each of which needs to install five video surveillance cameras. The archive must be stored somewhere. The user should be able to view both live video and archived video from a tablet / phone. The Internet channel is limited to either 1 mbps or traffic for rubles. The budget for one office is 25-30 tr, allowable monthly costs are 1-1.5 tr.

A two-week storage of archival records is also required.
In this case, we are not interested in the quality of the recording, and 0.3 megapixels in B&W is enough.
Indoor traffic will be virtually non-stop and 12 hours a day.

What came to mind:
1) Ivideon Need cameras Ivideon Microdigital MDC-i7240F or
Sarmatt SR-IQ10F40 (the second one can PoE), or other cameras and a machine with Ivideon Server software.
5 Ivideon cameras * 5.5 tr. = 27.5 tr. A suitable tariff is “Home” (up to 16 cameras), i.e. 2 rubles/day*30= 60 rubles/month for 1 camera. In this case, a two-week archive will cost 60+360=420 * 5 =2100 rubles/month. But, after all, the Internet channel does not allow us to write an archive to the cloud; for this, Ivideon cameras provide the ability to insert a microSD up to 32 GB. We add flash drives of 32 GB = 1 tr. * 5 = 5 tr. + 27.5 tr = 32.5 tr, add a router \ switch, for example D-link DIR-300 . Of course, 1.5 tr. per twisted pair cable: 32.5 + 1 + 1.5 = 35 tr. + 300 rubles / month. .
A 32 GB memory card will last for 4-8 days, according to Ivideon. I'll try to switch to monochrome, but it's still doubtfully small.
We take out memory cards -5 tr. and buy nettop DNS Porto for 9 tr. with 500 GB storage on board. Total: 35 - 5 + 9 = 39 tr. + 300 rub./month
In this place, you can probably pick up something less expensive, all sorts of RPi-charms, but I already have a computer in my office, so I can install Ivideon Server on it

2) D-Link
While writing the question, an IP camera DCS- 930L from D-Link for 2 tr. with support for My D-Link and Wi-Fi 802.11N. Let's try to solve the problem:
Five cameras of 2 tr. = 10 tr.
Stable three-antenna router DIR-655 = 3 tr.
If I'm not mistaken, it is possible to work with a DNR-322L = 8 tr.
Let's add here an ordinary barracuda for 1 TB = 2.5 tr.
Total: 23.5 tr.

In this option, you can change the registrar and hard drive to DNS Porto nettop , the price will remain the same. On the nettop, you will need to install Linux and Ivideon Server to record archives. Accordingly, pay a subscription to Ivideon

3) Analog
I'm trying to calculate the cost of the analog version. If I imagine the picture correctly, you will need:
DVR with a web server - BestDVR-805LightNet= 8 tr. (there is cheaper for 4 channels, but we need 5 cameras)
Barracuda for 1 TB = 2.5 tr.
Five analog cameras for every taste cost ~ 5 tr. Example
We will need a router with PPPoE capability to some VPN server, or dyndns\no-ip - ~ 1.5 tr.
Again, coaxial connecting wires ~ 1.5 tr.
Total: 8 + 2.5 + 5 + 1.5 + 1.5 = 18.5 tr. . PPPoE requires a separate VPN server, which in modern conditions is not a problem, therefore I do not focus

on 4) Analog and Linux
Five analog cameras = 5 tr.
Cheap system unit from the radio market = 4 tr.
New hard drive 1 TB = 2.5 tr.
Connecting cables ~ 1.5 tr.
Video capture card ~ 3 tr. Here you need to choose the right one to work with Linux. If someone has come across, I beg you to share your experience. It is important to remember the requirement of five channels. Either a board for eight inputs, or two for four, which, again, leads to compatibility problems with the OS. At first glance, I like PCI ORIENT HW-808, 8hannel Router
with dyndns\no-ip - 1.5 tr.
ZoneMinder software\Analogues - free of charge
Total: 5+4+2.5+1.5+3+1.5 = 17.5 tr. + some time spent on the efforts of the administrator

5) LinuxDVR.ru, they are also AVReg
Found while writing the question.
If I understood correctly, they offer everything the same as in the previous paragraph, but they will also take 1 tr. for the camera due to the guaranteed compatibility of the software with the hardware and for the ability to work the software out of the box
. about 23 tr.

6) Trassir
At the moment, they proposed from analog solutions:
Camera AC-A331 - 5 * 1.5 tr \ pcs. = 7.5 tr.
Registrar - 2 * Lanser-Mobile II 3.5 -20.8 tr \ pcs. = 41.6 tr. or Trassir Nexus 8 - 81880 tr.
Railway, if Lanser - 2 * 2.5 = 5 tr.
Router, wires = 3 tr.
Total: 50+ tr.

Or DS-7208HVI-ST(Dual-Stream) as a registrar for 15 tr., in this case, the total set was:
Total: 7.5 + 2.5 +3 + 15 =28 tr.

Of the digital solutions, they suggested:
Cameras with Trassir software - 5 * 7 tr \ pcs \u003d 35 tr.
Server license - 1 tr\server
The company works only with Windows so far, so let's add the MS Win7 HB license here - 3 tr.
And server hardware - ~ 10 tr.
Router - 1.5 tr.
And twisted pair - ~ 1 tr.
Total: 35 + 1 + 3 + 10 +1.5 +1 = 60.5 tr.
The company promised from 2013 to provide support for Linux systems.

7) Trading House Tinko
Nothing surprised:
Registrar RVi-R08LA = 10 tr.
Railway 2TB - 4.5 tr.
Five cameras RVi-E21 for 1.1 tr. \u003d 5 * 1.5 \u003d 5.5 tr.
Let's add wires and a router ~ 3 tr.
Total: 23 tr.
Taking into account the difference in the volumes of railways, the solution based on the analogue from paragraph 3 is still cheaper by 3 tr. by using a cheaper DVR.

Never tried anything like this before.
I ask for your comments with a clear / experienced look.
Now I'm looking towards D-Link cameras with a D-Link registrar, or bring D-Link cameras into a local Windows PC that people work with, with further connection to Ivideon.
Is it worth it to issue the material into an article at the end of the work?

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FullZero, 2012-12-10
@FullZero

Purely for information, each Hikvision IP camera comes with a perpetual promotion - a free Trassir software license. You only need to buy one USB-key worth around 800 rubles. The cameras themselves are not super-duper, but they are quite good both in terms of quality and price, look, maybe something will appeal to you.

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KEKSOV, 2012-12-10
@KEKSOV

I apologize in advance that I will not offer a specific technical solution, but simply share my experience. A couple of years ago, a similar problem arose, spent three days studying the market and various options. Then, by chance, I found this office www.tinko.ru (I have nothing to do with it, honestly). In short, the problem was solved within one phone call to their consultants. Three days, of course, is a pity, but thanks to the accumulated information, I was able to understand the questions that I was asked. And among other things, at that time they had the best prices.

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Nikolai Turnaviotov, 2012-12-10
@foxmuldercp

One of my articles just describes such a homemade crutch and how I wrote it.
There will be questions - you can ask. This solution has been working for me for many years at my last job all over Ukraine

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Wott, 2012-12-10
@Wott

When calculating video surveillance, you must first decide what resolution the cameras should have: SD (analog and cheap IP) or HD. SD, especially if you squeeze it hard, will work as a presence sensor - sometimes it’s hard to see the number or face, but you can understand the color and brand of the car or guess the gender of the visitor :) HD in this regard is more interesting and can even be displayed on plasma for show-off. Then will there be lighting, outside or inside, the surveillance sector for cameras and whether dome or rotary, and so on.
The cheapest in general are SD IP cameras, but you have to tinker with software
Analog - old technology, plus crap with cable laying, plus hardware in the computer for digitizing and hard binding of software and
HD hardware - expensive, but angry
Then you need to calculate how much space you need on disk and whether the network is enough.
The video is always compressed, and you can safely reduce the SD to 1Mb / s channel, but the quality will be crappy, it's better to have a channel of 3-4 Mb. HD is pressed from 3 to 12 Mb / s, again, depending on what picture and resolution. It will take much less space on the disk, because most of the time the picture does not change (for example, an empty corridor), but it is difficult to predict in advance, it happens that 1TB is enough for several HD cameras a day, and sometimes one SD easily scores in a day.

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freeznah, 2012-12-10
@freeznah

Dlink 930L did not show itself very well in the “set and forget” conditions - it loses the link, then the picture “freezes”. For half a year with a dozen rebuts, I think it's not the best indicator.

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anka18d, 2014-09-22
@anka18d

I don’t know if it will suit you, but we installed Zenith E5 for ourselves, this is an outdoor video surveillance camera. Here it is yourcamera.ru/ip-kamery/zenith-e3-51-detail
We have it in the backyard, at any time I can turn it on and see the picture in real time on the TV. Conveniently, as they were leaving, everything that happened was recorded on a memory card, they arrived and watched their movie.
No deviations have been found so far.

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