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S1mF2017-04-05 01:40:04
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S1mF, 2017-04-05 01:40:04

What course of action is possible for a PHP developer with no experience?

Hello. I understand that the topic has already been discussed over 9999 times, but still I want to get a more or less intelligible answer from experienced developers who may have been in my (similar) situation.
At the moment I am studying at the 2nd year of the "provincial" university in the direction related to IT. The knowledge that the university gives is very scarce and well, it’s just too lazy to go to classes tomorrow, knowing that a computer graphics teacher will give another task like “Draw me: color: a dot on the form”, and then “Let’s it move horizontally” and At the same time, he will sit at the training computer and read the news. At the lecture, it will be just stupid to read the text that I took from the Internet in the morning before the couple. Well, everything like that ... In short, I only want a piece of paper from the university.
So, for 2 months I have been studying web technologies on my own. I started from the front end, then the back end on C # ASP.NET MVC 5 (because at the C # university), but later I realized that this technology stack would not be useful to me if I did not plan to move to a big city (at least not yet) I study). I started to dig into PHP, it seems not disgusting. I rummaged through Yii2, I liked it, I want to dig more, I'll write something mainstream on it.
In my city, PHP jobs sometimes pop up, but mostly a developer with experience is needed, which I am not. Remotely hardly anyone will take a beginner without real experience. Freelancing is basically a CMS swamp that I don’t want to get into, but for something more serious they simply won’t consider me as a performer (again, real experience is needed).
I myself think this way: continue to study in this direction and try to find a job in my city while I study at the university. If I don't find a job during my studies, I will go to another city and try my luck there.
Well, actually the question is: what would you do in my place?
PS I do not understand those who say that PHP is easier than other PLs. After all, something more than landing on WP requires a lot of effort and good knowledge (compare with C#).

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Saboteur, 2017-04-05
@S1mF

At the institute, they receive knowledge not of programming, but of general education, outlook, mathematics, physics, and literature. Think of it as a "I want to learn how to take exams" challenge and complete it.
"Freelancing is basically a CMS swamp that I don't want to get into"
Did you want to develop quantum computers without experience right away in an enterprise?
I don’t understand what the problem is to get a little experience in freelancing, or in open source?
Why does training have to be the new Facebook? Well, make a few simpler projects to fill your hand.
Higher education is now in demand.
Just because the competition among juniors is high, and a diploma is an indicator that a person is at least not lazy, at least able to learn, at least has a certain outlook and knowledge, or at least has an idea about them.
If, in addition, he also answers a couple of technical questions correctly, that is, satisfies the minimum requirements for this vacancy, a person with a crust will look much better in the eyes of the employer than without a crust.
Do not forget that the employer understands quite well that they do not teach programming in institutes, and a person learns programming himself. This means that a person with a crust, managed AND programming AND a diploma, and a self-taught person is a lazy nerd who probably spent all his strength on learning programming, and this is his ceiling.
In addition, when it comes to outsource, your immediate employer will sell you to a foreign client, and it is easier to sell an educated person and for more money.

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Denis Fedorets, 2017-04-06
@fedorez

Oh my God. "teacher sucker, teaches mammoth shit. rather teach us how to code under dotnet for normal money" (c) our cries 15 years ago. people do not change.
As far as I can see, bootcamps like DevMountain and related ones flourish abroad for such guys instead of universities, there are quite a few of them. we are waiting for you soon.
take theory, basics, mathematics, algorithms from your university. build social connections. tinker with interesting code, go to conferences, write something from and for the soul. now you have a unique time when you can study and you will not get anything for it. use it to its fullest.

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