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Sergey Kabashov2017-11-16 13:01:59
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Sergey Kabashov, 2017-11-16 13:01:59

Website tenders. Difficulties?

Good day to all. Such question is interesting.
I look towards state tenders.
And often the question arises, there are a minimum of participants, and sometimes there are none.
What's the catch?
Great money. For weak technical assignments.
For some reason this is a little intimidating.
But the prices are attractive. Prepaid.
Why are there so few who want it?
Can anyone share their experience or opinion?
Thanks in advance.

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Camaro67, 2017-11-16
@Camaro67

These tenders are more of a formality. Everything has already been decided there in advance: who will win it and who will receive how much from the amount indicated there. IMHO.

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Alexander Filippenko, 2017-11-16
@alexfilus

And read the contract carefully. I saw 3 pieces, and all of them were obviously not feasible.
And I also know a case when a small studio, having fallen in price by 4 times, intercepted a tender from a large company, which had previously been supporting one site for several years.
After that, a circus began with an attempt to bribe former employees of that large company in order to leak the source code. And besides, they were forced to fulfill ALL clauses of the contract, and of course they had to return all the money plus a penalty. And when the support company initially delayed the deadlines, for some reason it was forgiven, apparently out of old friendship (friends who work there say that there is no corruption there, they just got used to working together).
So it goes. Read the contract.

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zoozag, 2017-11-16
@zoozag

1. I have never met purchases with an advance payment, usually on the contrary there is an application security and a contract security.
2. Not the work itself takes a lot of time, but formal procedures:
- Application preparation
- Approvals
- Reports
3. Money often comes with a significant delay.

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ocatoll, 2017-11-16
@ocatoll

Once we participated in an auction for a small project: a
lot of time was spent on preparing an application and other formalities, but that's okay, you can learn to do it faster on stream. It froze that at the maximum price of 130 tr, the winner fell to 30 tr. and, of course, the site has been hanging unfinished for about two years, I don’t know how it ended there.

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Ivan, 2017-11-16
@Za0r

Everything that has the prefix "state" is not worth contacting, especially within the framework of IT

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Yuliaproject, 2017-11-25
@Yuliaproject

Collecting documents for the tender is a separate exciting quest. I didn’t participate in IT, but I had to in others. For a small company, and even, God forgive me, an individual entrepreneur, it is easier to refuse a deal than to collect all the certificates, obtain all permits and registrations. It may be too expensive and the profit from the transaction will not justify the costs. Especially when it is a public procurement. It is very difficult to meet the standards for SOE suppliers.
In addition, it is paid. You have to register on the site, pay for an access key (for example, for a year and then renew), and sometimes also pay for each participation. And if you didn’t win any tender, or didn’t participate at all, no one will return the money to you. The prices seem to be not high, up to 10,000 rubles per key (depending on the chosen tariff), but if you invested and did not get back, this money is considered lost.
And I support all those who have spoken above: it is necessary to read the contract meticulously; the supplier is very often predetermined and other participants are needed to give the appearance of a "fair and free election". Those. have different commercial offers on forms with a blue seal, proving that there was a tender.
Maybe someday it will be different, but so far so.

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