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Ignat2017-07-29 22:37:00
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Ignat, 2017-07-29 22:37:00

Twisted Pair Rights?

Hello, at the age of 12, having received a personal computer for the first time, I did not ask questions about the speed and amount of the Internet. There was a megafon tariff for a modem with 15 gigs per month for 400 rubles. Time passed, I grew up, and now, at the age of 17, I have the experience of home Kulibin. I threw the modem out of the window, put it in a calico, made home-made biquad antennas from the video on YouTube, broke the modems and soldered the antennas directly to the modem's internal antenna (the modem could not stand the torment of the soldering iron in my crooked hands). All because of the low-lying position of the house and the "forgetting" of the area by providers. Now, I have a Petra Broad Bend MIMO UniBox antenna, 4g beeline modem and a tariff from beeline for 600 rubles: 30 gigabytes + night unlimited (the speed with such an antenna soared for sky-high 15-20 Mbps for me, but it’s still not enough for rocking and online games, but still traffic is wasted) .
Then, in my 12 years old, dad, when trying to find out about wired Internet in the house, he received something like this in response: “You have one free pair on the street, but you can’t connect to it. Let us personally draw a line from the nearest bases. It will cost 50-100k. " Why it is impossible to connect to that twisted pair and the specific cost of the Internet, we have not found out to this day. Unless, at the provider's office in our area, they told me: "You can order an estimate for 3,000 rubles and find out the price." This prospect did not suit me. The money is also not small, but what if they calculate an exorbitant price, and then what to do?
The base, as we understand it, is a former school, now the Education Monitoring Center (Kaan, Combat, 13). From the base to our house about 400 meters and most likely
The question consists of the following components:
1) Are there any documents regulating the norms for conducting such twisted pairs? Perhaps a "hidden" couple will quickly be found if you go to court / prosecutor's office against the provider? I would be grateful for bringing specific articles and extracts.
2) How are cable internet usually carried out in settlements? On poles or a trench is excavated? It is necessary in order to assess whether we will pull the cost of the Internet.
Why such care about money? Firstly, of course, we don’t live richly, and secondly, we don’t want to spend cosmic sums on Rostelecom carried out because of bad reviews in Kazan (if we were talking about Domra, I would have already collected things for rotational work in Siberia).
There was also an idea to build a Wifi bridge from the nearest high-rise building, but again, there is no Domra there, but only Domra Business. I will also be grateful to those who will describe in detail the design of themselves as legal entities. a person to buy "a place on the roof" under Nanostation and whether this is even possible purely theoretically. The main thing is whether it will be possible to buy a place on the same favorable terms? I will arrange with the person responsible for that high-rise building that they will stretch the wire to the roof for me.

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Rsa97, 2017-07-29
@Rsa97

And where did you get the idea that this is a twisted pair? Considering that ethernet normally works up to 100 meters and requires at least two pairs, most likely there is a telephone pair, and only ADSL for a couple of megabits can be given over it.
For a legal street WiFi bridge, you will need to obtain a private permit from the State Commission on Radio Frequencies (SCRF), which costs money and takes up to six months if approved. And the prices for the Internet for organizations are much higher than for private traders.

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Sergey, 2017-07-29
@begemot_sun

You need to provide volumes. T.i. agitation of residents to connect the Internet will reduce its cost at times.

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CityCat4, 2017-07-31
@CityCat4

1) Are there any documents regulating the conduct of such twisted pairs? Perhaps a "hidden" couple will quickly be found if you go to court / prosecutor's office against the provider?

And as it should. And they do it this way and that, and combine it in every way. 3000 from you and asked for local specialists to walk to your house and figure out how much to do.
For lawyers, the prices for tyrnet are much higher. Simply because for yurikov.

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Dmitry Chernyak, 2017-07-30
@ZUSS

1. This is not a twisted pair, but a copper pair in a telephone cable.
2. The cable itself most likely belongs to a local telecom operator that provides numbers in your residential sector or Rostelecom.
3. You've been told bullshit if there's a free pair - it's technically usable, but possibly for a hell of a lot of money. Either - this is a technical couple, but then it is free only physically, but not for clients.
4. Laying a pair from the provider to the client in the sewers is insanely expensive. Typically, the provider rents part of the cable from Rostelecom or a local operator, or lays down its own for xxxx customers in the area.
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From the base to our house is about 400 meters and most likely, it will cost us not very cheap.
It's in a straight line. It can run up to a couple of kilometers through the sewers. If there is a sewer at all.
6. You can personally rent a pair for yourself in a cable
Are there any documents regulating the norms for conducting such twisted pairs? Perhaps a "hidden" couple will quickly be found if you go to court / prosecutor's office against the provider? I would be grateful for bringing specific articles and extracts.
Rostelecom has no right to refuse a potential client, IF there is a technical possibility. Price - calculated from the current conditions of the operator. :-)))
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How is cable internet usually carried out in settlements? On poles or a trench is excavated? It is necessary in order to assess whether we will pull the cost of the Internet.
In any way that will be agreed in the supervision.
8. Connecting via a wifi bridge has already been described to you above.

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