The dilemma of choosing between C++ and Java

Question

Java

Hello. I will introduce a little in the course of events.
Before entering the university, I had fun with Java for a month or two, nothing serious, it was just interesting, I got stuck on the OOP. When the studies began, we began to learn C, I treated him with a cool. But in the second semester, I started C ++ OOP, which at first scared me, but over time began to delight me insanely. I’ll make a reservation right away that programming is not our core subject and a lot has passed us by.
The year is over, there will be no programming in the second year. And so I have a question, what to learn then? Either continue C++, or return to Java. For reasons I don’t understand, I like Java more, and C ++ seems to be a more serious language, the only thing that raises doubts about C ++ is the complexity of development, including for Android (judging by hearsay).

Below I will describe in general terms what I want from the language:
1. Try Android development (I don't know how difficult it is if you use C ++ instead of Java);
2. Indie gamedev (madly admired by Notch and again, I don't know how expensive it would be to implement Minecraft in C++);
3. Development of desktop software. To some extent, this is a simulation of physical. processes and programs that count "big numbers" are generally related to science (secondarily and for fun);
4. I am considering the possibility of a part-time job in the near future.

Habralyudi, all hope is on you. Perhaps the list of expectations is vague, if you have questions - ask.

Answer 1

>> I like Java more for reasons I don't understand
Write in Java. If you want, you can move to C ++, although not without difficulty.

Answer 2

Of course, I am not an expert, and I do not pretend to be much more than IMHO. But my IMHO is still JAVA.
1. Under Android, JAVA is still more or less native technology, which removes a lot of problems.
2. In terms of indie gamedev, JAVA at least offers quite a viable cross-platform.
3. I do not undertake, because I did not come across.
4. The corporate sector has definitely been interested in JAVA for a long time, so there shouldn't be any problems either.

Answer 3

The choice between c++ and java (add .net c# here) is no longer a choice between programming languages ​​and syntactic sugar, but a choice between frameworks (libraries) that come with (or for) that language as the 'default standard'.
Moreover, these languages ​​are so similar, they came out of the same bosom of the 'old c ++'!
And this means choose what you like, but be prepared to just learn one more framework (and a little bit of language constructs), because a programmer who is not ready to learn something new ... looks weak and is doomed to failure in advance.

Answer 4

Start with C++ and C, preferably with C++11 and C11 right away, and then learn Java if necessary, it will be too difficult in the opposite direction, as they say - to be able to write well in Java\C# you need to know C.

Answer 5

C++, Java, and C# are all equally serious languages. Don't worry. Choose what you like. It's best to just try a little. Add Python and Ruby to the list.
However, rPman's colleague is right. In real life, frameworks are more important. I would also add the importance of design patterns (patterns).
Look for courses on programming languages ​​on Coursera and edX : there are a lot of tasty and useful things, there are often Russian subtitles. And by the way, yes. The most important thing is to learn English! :)

Answer 6

As for me, if you understand OOP in C ++ normally, then you can safely go to Java, if you like it, it is really friendlier at first. C++, on the other hand, provides much more means of working with a computer than java. I think Notch would be loved even more if Minecraft was made in C++. Then he would most likely by this time not require so much RAM for a normal game.

Answer 7

Java. And take a closer look at Clojure =)
I have a good friend of a programmer who in the past (and present) is a C'shnik,
studies Android - writes a program for fluid modeling.
He also wants to write a toy on Android,
some kind of clone ...
I can introduce you - you will write together.)
And by what criteria do you like Java more?

Answer 8

1. C++ And Java in case of games. Otherwise, only Java will suffice.
2. Depending on the platform. Maybe C# in Unity is enough.
3. C#.
4. If the subworking is for PHP, Ruby, it is easier to find it.

Answer 9

If you do NOT plan to engage in low-level system programming and writing drivers, then DEFINITELY JAVA.