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Alexander Gomzyakov2010-11-10 01:53:37
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Alexander Gomzyakov, 2010-11-10 01:53:37

Non-obvious choice between Mac OS and Ubuntu?

The situation is simple:
There is a certain comrade Khabrin whose main occupation is website layout. Freelancer. He does not refuse part-time work as a web designer, while in his free time he is fond of PHP programming, hoping to change his profile in the near future.
The question arose about acquiring another PC (the old computer, we will assume, burned to the ground).
There is a great desire to change the bored Win7, but the non-obvious choice between Mac OS and Ubuntu stops. Little experience is under both axes. There are no clear emotional preferences.
Imagine that you are the same comrade Khabrin. Which system would you choose and why ?

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SilentImp, 2010-11-10
@SilentImp

If comrade Khabrin is a coder and a bit of a designer, then he knows that adobe photoshop / fireworks formats are de facto standards for layouts.
Under macOSX there is a native Adobe solution.
Under Ubuntu, no.
You can, of course, shout about wine, export to ... and virtual machines, but my experience shows that this is not an option.
If you want to use something other than Windows, choose a mas. Then the virtual machine will only have IE for testing.

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Anton Korzunov, 2010-11-10
@kashey

Doctor, I have ubunta.
Mac sits to my left, Debian to my right. I am between them.
They are laughing. Neighing when my monitor is not auto-detected (or auto-detected) or the system does not exit the slip.
This is a new kind of virus - 10.10
Sometimes I dream of switching to Macos, or they demolished everything and put myself an LTZ riot or debian.
Windows - yes, it's not the best place for development.

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Kirill Boldyrev, 2010-11-10
@usetester

Everything below is purely subjective experience.
The level of usability on typical tasks of a programmer / layout designer / IT specialist in macos is higher than in ubuntu. The difference is not so fundamentally noticeable than between Macos and Windows, but nevertheless there is. This difference arises due to the greater thoughtfulness of the workspace management frills.
The second important point is the level of application applications. It's higher in Makos for sure. MacOS guidelines are still in demand and most Mac developers follow them. This also gives a pretty penny to the increase in overall work efficiency.
Photoshop has already been mentioned above. Of the advantages of the poppy, there is also the Textmate editor, but this is already an amateur, someone with NetBeans feels great.
Any bullshit like video editing can be ignored, but even though it’s a trifle, nevertheless there are no analogues of video editing under Ubuntu.
And if you focus on the poppy, then you can still look towards the macmini with a memory upgrade. it's somewhat cheaper than an aimak (assuming you already have a monitor :)

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kekekeks, 2010-11-10
@kekekeks

Oops, you asked a stupid question. Both are UNIX, so you can build an environment on the locale that is indistinguishable from what will be on the server, as well as use little things like sshfs in any case.
With installation and hardware problems, again, about the same (Linux is not good friends with some pieces of iron, and hackintosh, by definition, does not start everywhere).
The software you need to work is there and there.
But something I digress. I like Ubuntu more, because it is somewhat more flexible in terms of sharpening for myself. But this is a matter of taste, and it takes a lot of time to study.
My advice to you, just feel both systems and choose what is comfortable to work with.

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Vlad Zhivotnev, 2010-11-10
@inkvizitor68sl

for a typesetter - makos.
if you deviate more from coding - bubunta.
And keep the prices in mind

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Evgeny Elizarov, 2010-11-10
@KorP

I tried to find a “cute” php editor in Ubuntu after the poppy, but I didn’t find it :) they are certainly comfortable, but so dull that I want to cry :)

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asm0dey, 2010-11-10
@asm0dey

Actually, I would suggest saving a lot of money on a poppy by buying BizonComputers products and installing a licensed MacOS there (purchased in any restaurant or from the Bizonites themselves).
I agree with the opinion that makos is better for a layout designer - there is native Adobe software for it, which is the standard.
I don’t know why they say that ubuntu is better for coders - on the netbins website, all the tutorials on it are clearly pulled out of the macos.
Nevertheless, I myself program under ubuntu and am quite satisfied. It seems to me that netbins works exactly the same under both ubuntu and poppy. And if you can't see the difference, why pay more?
Therefore, as usual in any reasonable holivars, everything should come down to the question of goals. If the priority is design and layout, then it is better to give preference to makosi. If programming, then you need to count the money.

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FeNUMe, 2010-11-10
@FeNUMe

at the expense of "photoshop" tasks, I agree with the previous speakers - here you should choose a poppy (on which you can safely install ubuntu with the second system if you wish), but in terms of programming (in this case, in php, javascript) and layout (html, css) then you can safely take faster hardware and install ubuntu, choose an IDE for yourself (aptana, netbins, phpstorm and a few dozen more), customize the system interface for maximum convenience (personal) and performance.
By the way, about Textmate: in Ubuntu there is Gedit to which you can put the Gmate extension pack, a completely acceptable replacement, IMHO.

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Andrey Kruto, 2010-11-11
@Kpyto

Perhaps the answer to this question will be the comments to this habratopik .
Brief summary: Using Mac OS you can run Ubuntu side by side (on an iMac or Macbook) but why the hell?
Conclusion - Mac OS copes with most of the tasks that Ubuntu faces.
On the rights of personal opinion: If finances allow, you should choose Mac OS, in extreme cases, you will not be very limited as the “second” Ubuntu (in extreme cases). The converse statement is not true in this case.

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Anton Kossov, 2010-11-11
@tony

Definitely a poppy - it's just more convenient to work on it, right off the bat and without any additions for yourself, and all sorts of ubuntu and the like rise to makosi in the form of a virtual machine (virtualbox rules;)).

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TEHEK, 2010-11-12
@TEHEK

Buy a regular pisyuk. Windows will be included with it. Install Ubuntu. Sooner or later you will need something from her.
With the money saved, buy a monitor - www.amazon.com/HP-LP2475w-24-inch-Widescreen-Monitor/dp/B001FS1LLI IPS matrix like on imacs, but the screen is MATTE.
In general, judging by the tasks that a person performs, he needs to stay on Windows. And better not PHP, but Ruby.

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Maxim Dali, 2014-07-05
@Ezdrael

So, starting from the question asked, we will consider the following:
Ubuntu is somewhat easier here, as it is designed to sit on any hardware just like Windows.
In Ubuntu, if you want, you can also find good software.
In Ubuntu, things are more complicated. There is no Photoshop, but there is GIMP (I know that you will say that you can use Wine, but that's not it). XAMPP is configured with great difficulty through many console commands. There were no problems with SublimeText alone.
PS If something is wrong then forgive my illiteracy.

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Andrey Chursin, 2015-04-24
@AndreyChursin

Mac will cost at least 50 tr. (well, if without perversions), and for a lower cost, you can buy the same top-end PC (stationary or laptop) and install Linux there (in my case, Ubuntu). I think cost is the only thing that limits everyone from a Mac.
I won't say the Mac is bad, but it's expensive. And all the work CAN be done in Ubuntu! For Linux, you can find hundreds of not-so-licked (in a good way) programs that are designed to replace paid software (the price of pre-installed software is based on the poppy)!
In general, IMHO, the entire set of paid programs (ex. Adobe) is kept on the market purely because of the total monopoly (like the entire Windows)!
Bottom line:
+ Mac is phenomenally beautiful and completely conservative.
+ Mac many people pray for it, which is why a lot of proprietary software is written on it.
- Mac is expensive.
+ Ubuntu has a SUPER fast and user-friendly interface with desktops, which is extremely useful (more convenient than changing windows by alt + tab) when you are busy working.
+ Ubuntu does not contradict the Windows keyboard (yes, you can get used to the Mac one ...)
+ Ubuntu community + usability + FREE
- Ubuntu system stability (well, it can be installed even on a kettle and you can forgive)
- Ubuntu is not clear how, but it works!
- Ubuntu miserable applications, most applications resemble DOS.
- Ubuntu has an incredibly weak design compared to Mac OS.
ps web developer, 4 years of experience, Ubuntu 14.04 64x.
pps If you have money - buy a Mac (Linux can be installed at any time)

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