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ixSci2011-02-20 23:21:05
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ixSci, 2011-02-20 23:21:05

Is there any point in macbook pro?

Hello,
I have a question about buying a laptop for work needs. Thus, you need good hardware so that the compilation time does not go beyond reasonable limits, and the system is responsive.
I looked at the macbook pro, it seems like a good laptop. But for its price, I can buy another one with more powerful hardware, so the question arises, is it worth taking it? Please share your personal experience
. Some points are of interest:
1) Working time, is there a comparable working time for other players in the market? Those. 5 hours of active use sounds interesting.
2) Keyboard. To be honest, I never saw a poppy live, but I had a Vaio with spaces between the keys (as I understand it, they adopted it from the poppy). I would like a keyboard of this type.
3) Screen need 13"
4) For games, it is not needed, the maximum movie to watch.
As a system, you need both Mac Os and Win7, but Mac Os costs $30 versus $200 for Win7 (one more + in the piggy bank of a non-Apple laptop)
In general, help me decide :)
UPD: Price within $ 2000
UPD2: Thank you all for answers, due to Apple's licensing policy, under my conditions, I have no options other than a MacBook.

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akira, 2011-02-20
@ixSci

Here you need to look already at work, if the desired OS is OS X, then without options you need to take a MacBook Pro.
Hackintosh / Virtual machines will slow down the work.
And you should just use OS X, it just might not work.
The MacBook Pro is huge + its body, it is almost eternal.

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holyorb2, 2011-02-20
@holyorb2

MAC is a brand, and brands have always been expensive
A brand is not only a foreign word, but also a quality business
, therefore, choosing MAC you choose a brand, style, reliability, quality, caliper, ...
At the same time, you can buy an ordinary laptop, which will serve faithfully and be faster than the IAS.
I don’t understand, buy a MAC and install Windows :(

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Paulskit, 2011-02-20
@Paulskit

Apple makes excellent laptops, I have not seen anything better in terms of build quality and convenience. Is there any reason? Your money, you decide. As already written here, for this money you can buy a more productive machine. Another thing is whether this performance is needed in a laptop? (Especially when you consider what price it is achieved). For everyday use (Internet, text editors, music, movies) an ideal laptop. Especially, in this regard, Mac OS X helps. You either fall in love with this OS or you hate it.
I have been using a 13" macbook for over 4 years now. Oddly enough, the ideal machine for me seems to be Macbook AIR 11.6. 13" is too small for full-fledged work (try to work on such a screen in VS, it's a kill ), 2 and a half kg of weight is too much in order to discreetly carry it around with you all day. The processor is still inferior in performance to desktop machines, I don’t see the point in doing something resource-intensive on a laptop. And in real conditions, the speed of the disk subsystem, and not the processor or video card, will interfere most of all. So, IMHO, it makes sense to take a younger model with an SSD drive.

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homm, 2011-02-20
@homm

Mac OS doesn't cost $30, it's not for sale at all. comes with any Apple computer. It costs $30 to upgrade from version 10.5 to version 10.6. Moreover, the previous upgrades (and most likely all the following ones) cost $130.

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leviathan, 2011-02-21
@leviathan

In principle, all the main pros / cons of Macbooks have already been described above. The only thing I would like to add is that I have never seen such a high-quality touchpad as on a MacBook. It is very large and comfortable, multi-touch gestures greatly simplify the work (although they have already appeared on many laptops) - I don’t use the mouse on my Macbook at all, except occasionally in CS:S to cut myself.
You can put Mac OS X on some other laptops, and in some places it even works well after certain gestures. But if this operating system is needed as a development environment, then I would not bother with Hackintosh and would take a Mac.
By the way, take a closer look at the simple white plastic version - it is cheaper than the base model of the aluminum Pro with almost identical filling, only there is no card reader, FireWire and a plastic case (but very high quality, since it is also Unibody - it feels much more reliable compared to most plastic laptops). And one more piece of advice - it’s better not to upgrade the memory when buying from Apple, they tear up crazy money; compatible modules can be bought many times cheaper and installed by yourself, without losing the warranty.

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Msviblov, 2011-02-20
@Msviblov

“But for its price, I can buy another one with more powerful hardware.”
In my opinion, this is the answer to your question. Sonya, similar in parameters, will cost much less, even taking into account the cost of the operating system.
The only thing - "You need both Mac Os and Win7 as a system" - if you need BOTH systems, then take a macbook without a doubt. But why do you need Maxos?)
If you take analogues, I would look at Lenovo THINKPAD X201s. Of the interesting things there is Core i7, Operating time 7.2 ... 7.3 hours, DDR3 4096 MB in size. The price together with the Win 7 Professional operating system, judging by the market, is 66,200 rubles.

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rumkin, 2011-02-20
@rumkin

Try to use Macos on a virtual machine, if you are satisfied with the speed / quality of work, but you don’t want to switch from Windows, buy a win-note, but if you feel that you like MacOS, take a Macbook, if in Windows, apart from habit, nothing else keeps you, to Macos get used to it, it's essentially a tool, not an end in itself)

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mr_locke, 2011-02-21
@mr_locke

I'll take the opportunity and ask here. i saw a macbook in a shop window, it was connected to the mains (electrical). decided to look. The first thing that caught my eye was the terrible heating in the upper area of ​​​​the case, where the network is connected. In addition, the entire upper part of the case above the keyboard also had a rather noticeable temperature.
I myself sometimes think about switching to this platform, so a few questions for users:
- is such heating normal? My T500 doesn't.
- is the battery changed?
- if you work most of the time from the network, does this affect the battery life? For example, thinkpads can adjust charging in order to increase resource.
Yes, I'm interested in 15 and 17" models
. Thanks in advance for the info.

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Georgy Mogelashvili, 2011-02-22
@glamcoder

What do you have that makes you not want to give up Windows? A common myth that under the poppy there is no software that is under Windows is a myth. Especially with the advent of the Mac App Store, where finding and installing the right application is no more difficult than searching on Google.
I have been using Mac OS for a year now and during this time I have not found a single program for Windows, an analogue (and sometimes a better option) of which would not be found under Macos. Well, except perhaps Visual Studio, which I need on duty.
For such purposes, there are virtualization applications to choose from (Parallels, VmWare, VirtualBox), which provide excellent performance for everyday tasks (yes, slower than a native installation, but you can work quite comfortably). If a virtual machine does not suit you, then here Apple has BootCamp technology, which allows you to install Windows natively on any mac computer as a second OS.
Well, the build quality, the convenience of the keyboard and other delights of life - there’s nothing to even talk about. But wait for the update, it will be clearly better than the current line.

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plasticmirror, 2013-11-14
@plasticmirror

MacBook keyboard is excellent 15 "with retina - a great way to fit any amount of information if necessary and excellent fonts at a normal scale, I think that 13" with retina can be used in about the same way

batteries (mid2013, 15") I have enough hours for 5 vigorous use, if you don’t drive the parallel with the studio and sit in the macos to rake the mail / crawl on the Internet - then 8 hours is quite possible

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