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ClusterBias2019-08-27 22:09:26
System administration
ClusterBias, 2019-08-27 22:09:26

Is it worth it to stay enikey in a big company for a long time?

Hey! I recently got a job in one huge Russian company, I won’t say what name. In general, the work is Enikey, install the program, fix the printer, install the printer, rearrange Windows, and add users to AD. In short, something does not smell like real administration. The fact is that it is not clear how in this case to develop to a real admin. I work in a branch in my city, all the admins are in Moscow, in fact, I can’t introduce anything new, install anything new, touch any equipment, because the roles of employees are strictly distributed, and naturally no one will do anything outside their area of ​​responsibility. The question is how to develop? If a person was taken as an enikey worker, this probably suggests that after a few years of work and study, he will already become a beginner system. admin. In my case, I work as enikey, I can develop in exactly the same way as a person without work - on test benches in a spherical vacuum. If you have suggestions on how to develop, do not hesitate to help. Or do you still need to look for vacancies in smaller companies, running errands from administrators (at the moment I am the only IT specialist in the branch)?

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Sanes, 2019-08-27
@Sanes

Work for at least a year. Even if you are in the wings at the branch, there will be various kinds of adventures in a year. Well, in the summary, 1 year looks preferable than a few months.

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Ivan Shumov, 2019-08-27
@inoise

If you don’t have a clause in the contract saying that you are obliged to train, they don’t train you at work and you sit in such an ass, then it’s time to take off your rose-colored glasses and find out that no one in this life owes you anything and self-development is your own business. There are some organizations that train employees, but only as internships with subsequent employment, or as retention of already highly qualified specialists who want to have at least the illusion of development

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Saboteur, 2019-08-28
@saboteur_kiev

If the company is really huge, then you can stay for a year or two.
See how everything is arranged, figure out where something is automated, by what means, find a friendly admin from the main office who can prompt / give more access.
Now, in the age of virtualization, it’s not a problem for yourself to raise a whole subnet of virtual machines and play around with them, simulating a branch in a branch.
Again, the main admins are far away, but you are here in your branch. You can look for things to improve. To look at the conditions of work with the provider better, maybe the provider itself can be changed, printer maintenance can be outsourced, telephony can be redone.
In general, for the first job, there will always be tasks for 1-2 years to gain experience, both technical and self-organizational.

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Andrey Semenov, 2019-08-29
@EraserKhv

You come to the senior system administrator and say: - "give me a virtual machine to play, I want to practice doing this" THIS "so that the users have this" THIS "opportunity". If you are also involved in printers, then for example - "a program that will poll printers for% of the remaining toner and semaphore if it is less than 5%". Sanes rightly said that many adventures happen in a large office, if you don’t show initiative, you will remain Enikey.
Once a year, students come to me for practice, I give them my initiatives for which there is no time to study, with the expectation that they themselves will find on the Internet how it works, how to approach this issue, and begin to implement it. I myself will not tell anything, once.
As for the courses, I will say: without further practice, the course is meaningless. It is necessary to approach the courses from the other side, I decided, I will be a networker - I went to the courses "Cisco / Juniper / Huawei". Or I will administer AD - I went to hell with MS Active Directory, etc.
I followed this path - I decided that I would be the administrator of "EmailMegaSystem 2019". I put home a couple of computers for virtual machines, bought a domain, bought an IP address, deployed the system. As a result, I received and sent from my domain to Google, etc. It greatly expanded the horizon of knowledge. Then I went to vendor courses on "EmailMegaSystem 2019", filled in the gaps.

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dollar, 2019-08-27
@dollar

If the salary is high and suits, then it's worth it.
You can learn along the way.
It makes no sense to touch the equipment with your hands. Work sys. admin is reading the documentation. Unless you crimp the wire with your hands, and if more, then this is already an installer. So study the networks and stuff, and you'll see

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Northern Lights, 2019-08-28
@php666

it is not clear how in this case to develop to a real admin.
the real administrator is who looks at the black console and digs unix? however, it doesn’t matter - you need to “ develop to the present [required_enter] ” yourself.
If a person was taken as an enikey worker, this probably suggests that after a few years of work and study, he will already become a beginner system. admin.
Bygygy. No, buddy. This assumes that your duty is to be enikey-monkey, you have a role and you fulfill it. To become a sysadmin, you need to learn how to sysadmin, go to the management, pass an interview in the sysadmin department, and then, perhaps, you will be transferred.

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CityCat4, 2019-08-28
@CityCat4

If a person was taken as an enikey worker, this probably suggests that after a few years of work and study, he will already become a beginner system. admin

The employer never assumes anything - he closes a vacancy for which he needs an enikey here and now . I recommend working for at least a year, especially if the salary suits you. For a year - I will never believe that there will not be any situation where one could prove himself.
(for example. Once a server died in one of our branches. It was many years ago, there was no virtualization from the word nifiga. I and the local admin had to reinstall FreeBSD, while I was the "head" of Voltron, and the local admin - "hands" :) )

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