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Alex Green2019-09-30 15:46:28
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Alex Green, 2019-09-30 15:46:28

If the goal is to go to another country and work there as a programmer, do I need a diploma for a visa?

Hello, I am concerned about the question, do I need to have a diploma to get a job abroad as a programmer? In the CIS, it is quite difficult to find companies that agree to accept programmers who do not have an appropriate diploma, but in order to get a work visa, they write on the Internet that you need to provide a diploma, so is it worth spending time and money on education? The first diploma is not related to programming at all. I’m thinking of throwing it into a private sharaga for a master’s program in IP (of course, they won’t teach anything there). Is the game worth the candle?

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Sergey Nizhny Novgorod, 2019-09-30
@kindofgenleman

1) A person who yells "I want to go to another country" is a juvenile moron who has not decided what he needs in life.
2) There are a lot of such juvenile morons. You open some video of an "IT migrant" from some Vietnamese, chili - he sits smacking some garbage. And he can’t even answer himself why and for what he went there.
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Competent approach:
1) Choose 1-3 countries that you consider promising.
2) We study the requirements for candidates.
3) We study migration methods.
4) You make a decision on a specific country - it makes sense, it doesn't make sense, etc.
5) You start investing time, effort, money to get through the neck of migration.
6) You get what you wanted (or you understand that there is no direct road yet, and you need to somehow work around it).
7) You rejoice in life, or you understand that somehow it didn’t work out very well.

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sim3x, 2019-09-30
@sim3x

In the CIS, it is quite difficult to find companies that agree to accept programmers who do not have an appropriate diploma, but in order to get a work visa, they write on the Internet that you need to provide a diploma, so is it worth spending time and money on education?
No
If the goal is to go to another country and work there as a programmer, do I need a diploma for a visa?
No
I’m thinking of throwing it into a private sharaga for a master’s program in IP (of course, they won’t teach anything there). Is the game worth the candle?
no. In addition, there is a danger that it is precisely on this parameter that you will be overwhelmed at an interview
. Gain experience

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tsarevfs, 2019-09-30
@tsarevfs

You need to study the visa rules of specific countries. It happens that not all universities are recognized. Sometimes you need a state diploma.

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devalone, 2019-09-30
@devalone

Depends on the country. In such countries as Poland, the Czech Republic, for example, is not needed, but even in them it will be a plus, it speeds up and simplifies the process. And in Europe there is a Blue Card program, where you need either a diploma or 5 years of proven experience.
PS do not forget that the diploma must be from an accredited university.

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Alexey Nikolaev, 2019-09-30
@Heian

Necessary. Either a diploma and at 23-25 ​​as a white person, or you plow for a profile experience and try at 30+ (but by that time you can get a diploma if you are still without a diploma at 25).

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Puma Thailand, 2019-09-30
@opium

In the CIS, all companies accept without a diploma, in many countries a diploma makes it easier to move, for example, it gives points for a visa to Australia

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Alezzqz, 2019-10-01
@Alezzqz

It is highly desirable to have a diploma in a specialty for emigration, I would even say it is necessary.
Moreover, even if they promise that formally only working experience is enough - do not flatter yourself.
I have more than 25 years of experience in IT, I have repeatedly received offers from American employers, had excellent interviews, even won the H1B raffle, but when I tried to get a work visa, I received a hard refusal precisely because I didn’t have a diploma in my specialty.
Not that I wanted to leave (I have a good life in Russia too), they just offered a job that was a little more interesting.
In general, if you are very interested in emigration, it is highly recommended to have an IT diploma!

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Igor Ivanov, 2019-10-26
@PlugIN

And you don’t go with the thought of leaving completely, but just try to live in another country. Maybe you won't like it. It is possible through a work visa. Try to find a company that will be of interest to you and directly submit a request to them. Communicate with foreign HR on LinkedIn. There is another interesting site: relocate.me.

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Vadim_Morozov, 2021-03-01
@Vadim_Morozov

I do not think that this document will be a decisive factor in this matter, it will be quite enough and similar to kyplu-diplom.net.ua

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