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Anatoly Talugin2016-06-18 12:49:53
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Anatoly Talugin, 2016-06-18 12:49:53

How to "link" the system unit with the monitor and peripherals?

Hello. The theme is this. The system unit will be located on the loggia (due to noise isolation), and the monitor with peripherals in the room. What's the best way to transmit a lossless HDMI signal? Prioritize 4K. What is the best cable to put in the walls, twisted pair or fiber optic? Can "thin client" purchase, or "nettop". I would like to hear authoritative visions of the situation on these issues ... Thank you in advance ...

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Fedor Ananin, 2016-06-18
@Marusis

Now the situation is similar. There is a odnushka without repair and there was a desire to move the PC to another room so that there was absolute silence even under load. Only in my case, the computer is removed to the pantry, which will be separated from the desktop by only one wall. But, I still need to lay ~ 15-20 meters of HDMI to the TV so that I can play on the TV with a gamepad.
Forget about thin clients and RDP. If you only need to print and surf the Internet, then there is no point in a powerful PC on the loggia. Just take a quiet / silent nettop / monoblock or a computer in a flash drive format.
If you want to watch 4k videos and/or play games, especially 4k, then no thin clients will provide acceptable speed. On YouTube on the LinusTechTips channel, you can search for a video of how the guys built 1 PC with a pair of Xeons and, in my opinion, with seven video cards so that 7 people could play on it at the same time - everything was fine, but everything was connected directly. But when they removed the server away and replaced the direct connection with thin clients, then the jams began. In simple casual games and strategies, this is not so critical, but it has become difficult to play shooters.
I wanted to solve the delivery of content to the TV through the Steam Link. This would remove a lot of problems: all gaming peripherals (mouse, keyboard, a couple of gamepads) are connected to Link, which means you don’t need to pull USB extension cables. Yes, and everything is solved with one Ethernet cable, which can even be 100 Mbps. Plus, I will have a TV set of about 32-42 inches, which means there is little point in 4k. Everything was going great until I read about the lags. insignificant, but the impressions of shooters greatly spoil.
Now I already have a gigabit cable stretched along the ceiling and along the wall to the area where the TV will be - it will come in handy. But I will pull HDMI along the plinth and somehow pervert with USB.
By the way, on two USB extension cables one meter long, connected to each other, I did not notice a deterioration in the operation of the mouse, keyboard, 3G modem. The Wi-Fi adapter complains about the lack of power, I think this can be solved with an intermediate hub with additional power.
For example, two USB3.0 hubs connected in series do not affect the read/write speed of USB3.0 hard drives.
How, after all, in the end, I will solve my problem at home:
1) Monitors are connected to the video card with ordinary DisplayPort cords of standard length (enough to push through the wall);
2) The mouse + keyboard are connected to the USB hub in the monitor, a MicroUSB cable is also connected there to charge the mouse and charge the fitness tracker. Flash drives and a phone (not for charging, purely for data exchange) into the second USB hub on the second monitor.
3) I seriously think about how to solve the issue with the USB3.0 hub... You need to connect several external hard drives and sometimes take them with you. I don't want to go to the computer. Most likely you will have to solve this with a bunch of USB3.0 extension cord for a meter or two and a USB3.0 hub with a long cord. If there is interference, then you will have to take 2 hubs.
4) But the TV and the gamepad ... It's more complicated. It will no longer be possible to run HDMI along the ceiling and along the wall, since the walls have already been painted ... You will have to under the plinth. In this case, I'm afraid that 15m may not be enough. At a longer length, they say, HDMI may have problems. I found an interesting HDMI over Ethernet adapter ... but the issue price is about 12,000 rubles. Of the minuses: HDMI 1.3 (maximum [email protected]) and a slight loss of quality. Perhaps I will measure the required cable length again. If 15+m, then I will decide through Steam Link or a second PC with android and SteamOS. Android is purely for PS1, Dendy, Sega, PS2 emulators.
Found just a bomb cool thing that will save you from all the problems! Alas, for me it will be quite expensive and redundant, although I will also take the idea into service.
Elgato Thunderbolt 2 Dock .
The computer must have a thunderbolt 2 connector. Included is a 50m optical and very thin thunderbolt cable. On the dock itself, there are 3 USB3.0 pieces, there is an audio input and audio output, a couple more thunderbolts and HDMI 1.4b, which can [email protected] And it is possible to use Thunderbolt as a mini-DisplayPort, that is, drive 4K at 60Hz.
You need to buy a thunderbolt controller for your PC (I don't know the prices) and such a device ($230 + shipping from abroad). This is the best solution for your problem. Convenient, simple, fast and lossless. All through one thin cable.
On the other hand... thunderbolt 2 has 20Gb/s bandwidth, so you can't connect a pair of 4K monitors to it, but one 4K and one FullHD is fine. In any case, this is the best solution of all that were discussed in this thread.

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Fixid, 2016-06-18
@Fixid

A similar situation, I use a good HDMI cable with 10m anti-interference.
Peripherals wireless

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Panteleimon Shtanko, 2016-06-18
@idfUt74kex

about the myth about a digital signal, the signal is digital, but here the data is transmitted by pixels ... I have a long cable, SVEN or a similar cheap segment manufacturer, the pixels simply disappeared, flickered .... there is an optimal option, it makes sense to buy promoted brands no, just go to amazon, sort by price and choose the average price range, the prices there are more than adequate, then find it locally or buy it from Ebay / aliexpress, for 10 meters of HDMI, I would give 25-50 here, according to individual preferences, you need to look, you can also buy a good quality bu, amers often give away such things from 1ue ....
As for the noisiness of the PC, only the HDDs remained noisy, which, as storage, can be taken out separately, the video card can be fine-tuned, or complete dropsy including the power supply, BUT THIS IS UNDER THE CONDITION OF SMOOTH hands, otherwise it’s a disaster, by the
way, SSDs also squeak, in particular the Intel 3700 squeak bitches, but EXACTLY when streaming a 2-4G RAM dump (on pause / suspend VMware) ... I think others (of the same level) also squeak, since there is a throttle inside, it is treated with thermal pads, but this is + 20-30 to the cost ..... you can, of course, fill it with cheap thermal paste, but with my 3700 I would not do this)))))

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