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lukoie2014-08-19 22:54:59
lukoie, 2014-08-19 22:54:59
How to find out the real prices for creating a website?
In general, how are the prices for creating a site calculated? Let's have a one-pager? And if a person wants to add another page, and some other scripts, let's say a capture page with registration and sending a PDF gift. Or to the portal? Separate design, separate layout and separate features? Or how? And if the customer himself hasn’t kicked in the teeth yet, what will be there in the end, but wants to know the price now?
Is the geo-location of the client taken into account? For example, for Moscow, Zhmerinka and Tyumen, will prices differ for the same order?
ZYZH opened an application for the production of an android toy on the "weblancer", so the prices for my order were from 150 dollars to 3000, and the time was from 5 days to 3 months. I understand that frameworks and greed, but something is somehow wrong here.
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@viktorvsk
It never ceases to touch :)
If the projects are typical (one-pagers, simple online stores, blogs, forums...) and trivial, then you can often find a contractor who will undertake to place an order for a fixed amount, agreed at first. But we must remember that after the final price is known, the contractor is not concerned with quality, but with the way to meet the budget in terms of time and resources.
Advice that 99% of customers obviously will not follow: if you yourself do not have much experience in managing web projects, but want to make a serious product (tentatively, you plan to spend at least $ 5,000 on everything-pro-everything, for example), then the cheapest way This:
1) Get the idea very clear. Write all kinds of scenarios in your mind and on paper. Come up with "characters" and user stories. Share with friends and find the first hundred flaws, shortcomings and inconsistencies in the idea.
2) After the idea is more or less formalized and you were able to convey its essence to several people, you need to try to compose a "block" TK (for example, users can register through social networks. only contact and FB. Users can invite other users. User can upload 10 pictures. The next ones are paid. You can also try to compose such a TOR yourself and with friends.
3) After that, you need to find a person who has more or less normal experience in developing or managing such systems and pay him, for example, a quarter of the budget that you wanted to invest initially when you were looking for cheaper freelance responses so that he would help you competently create a functional TOR.
4) After that, with the functional TOR, you need to decide on the technology stack. Here you can find different performers and ask them to argue which technologies are better to use and why.
5) Interrogate these executors about the approximate time that may be required to implement each block (not a function). See if there are major differences in scoring across teams and stacks.
6) The most difficult thing is to choose from those who gave the most adequate estimates (most likely, not the most minimal ones), to choose those who are simply more trustworthy.
7) The time in hours that they indicate to multiply by 2 and focus on this amount (to themselves). Just be ready for x3-x5 sum.
8) The task is best broken down into small independent stages in order to better understand whether the performers meet the deadlines and so that it would always be painless for both parties to stop work.
Otherwise (if we take those who promise faster, cheaper and are ready to work for a predetermined amount, and not time + materials), there will be another Sydney Opera
Of course, if the budget for the app is $500 per app, then the only option is to find a freelance leprechaun with a potty, give him all the money at once, and pray.
PS The average price of an app in the west (medium, but finished) is $100K
@juliadesigner
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Viktor Vsk, 2014-08-20 @viktorvsk
And if the customer himself hasn’t kicked in the teeth yet, what will be there in the end, but wants to know the price now?
It never ceases to touch :)
If the projects are typical (one-pagers, simple online stores, blogs, forums...) and trivial, then you can often find a contractor who will undertake to place an order for a fixed amount, agreed at first. But we must remember that after the final price is known, the contractor is not concerned with quality, but with the way to meet the budget in terms of time and resources.
Advice that 99% of customers obviously will not follow: if you yourself do not have much experience in managing web projects, but want to make a serious product (tentatively, you plan to spend at least $ 5,000 on everything-pro-everything, for example), then the cheapest way This:
1) Get the idea very clear. Write all kinds of scenarios in your mind and on paper. Come up with "characters" and user stories. Share with friends and find the first hundred flaws, shortcomings and inconsistencies in the idea.
2) After the idea is more or less formalized and you were able to convey its essence to several people, you need to try to compose a "block" TK (for example, users can register through social networks. only contact and FB. Users can invite other users. User can upload 10 pictures. The next ones are paid. You can also try to compose such a TOR yourself and with friends.
3) After that, you need to find a person who has more or less normal experience in developing or managing such systems and pay him, for example, a quarter of the budget that you wanted to invest initially when you were looking for cheaper freelance responses so that he would help you competently create a functional TOR.
4) After that, with the functional TOR, you need to decide on the technology stack. Here you can find different performers and ask them to argue which technologies are better to use and why.
5) Interrogate these executors about the approximate time that may be required to implement each block (not a function). See if there are major differences in scoring across teams and stacks.
6) The most difficult thing is to choose from those who gave the most adequate estimates (most likely, not the most minimal ones), to choose those who are simply more trustworthy.
7) The time in hours that they indicate to multiply by 2 and focus on this amount (to themselves). Just be ready for x3-x5 sum.
8) The task is best broken down into small independent stages in order to better understand whether the performers meet the deadlines and so that it would always be painless for both parties to stop work.
Otherwise (if we take those who promise faster, cheaper and are ready to work for a predetermined amount, and not time + materials), there will be another Sydney Opera
Of course, if the budget for the app is $500 per app, then the only option is to find a freelance leprechaun with a potty, give him all the money at once, and pray.
PS The average price of an app in the west (medium, but finished) is $100K
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juliadesigner, 2014-08-22 @juliadesigner
There is no real price, because Everyone has a different labor cost. In addition, it all depends on the work processes. Design is actually sometimes impossible to evaluate correctly.
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