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Alexander2017-03-21 19:03:41
Project management
Alexander, 2017-03-21 19:03:41

How should a normal PM behave?

PMs at work really annoy me. We have a turnover with PM - ami, 8 pieces have been replaced in half a year. And each is gifted in his own way . One pm asked me for a whole day how much I would do this or that task, then disappeared for unknown reasons. The other one could not allocate the time correctly and at the end of the month, when he decided to leave, he began to score on projects and not coordinate me with what and how the customer wants, because of this I redid the same task 2 times. We have a very good marketing department and they are breaking through very cool and interesting projects for us. Now there are many projects and PM - s has become as much as 2x. As I understand it, they work on a project basis, the faster and more they close projects, the more they earn $. They both rape my brain when I hand over a project to one pm and when I take a project from another. The last straw was when one of them started calling me on the phone over the weekend and asking how things were going with the task, since the deadline was over and the customer was asking for it. I understand that I will always be behind deadlines, because if one project drags on, others drag on and this brain violence will never end.
Purpose:
To figure out what the problem is, if it’s in me, then solve it, although I think that I have almost 0 procrastination, since I check all social networks in the morning at home lying on the bed and then I go to rb. The maximum that I can be distracted by is the trainee who needs to be given direction.
If it's not about me, but PM - ah, then go to the authorities with a proposal on how best to find candidates or what he should be like for this position.
And another mini question, how are things with your PM - ohm, is this the first case and it's only with me. Matryoshka is a question in a question))).

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Dmitry MiksIr, 2017-03-21
@kentuck1213

Start using the tracker, at least. All tasks - through the tracker. Tasks should be decomposed into small ones, up to 8-16 hours, at least. Priority can be controlled by managers, at least 10 - let them fight themselves. Don't fundamentally change a task until it's finished (well, with the exception of hotfixes). But keep in mind that there are more requirements for you than for PMs - correctly decompose the project, evaluate the task and keep the time, and yes, this also takes time.
And finding a good PM is even more difficult than finding a good programmer.

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HellWalk, 2017-03-29
@HellWalk

It's simple - there is no equivalent relationship between people. There is always someone pulling the blanket over themselves.
In companies, it's the same. Judging by the described situation, you are the last one in the company. And there are two ways out:
1. Just change jobs
2. Wait for a normal PM to appear, or it will reach the management that something is wrong in the structure of the organization.
But I would not recommend hoping for the second point. Personal experience, when I worked as a webmaster in one office, doing alone, without an advertising budget, a third of all sales in the company + helped two other sections, shows that no one will even say thanks for this. Just when he left, and an ordinary person came to the company (and not a person who loves to set impossible goals and achieve them, like me), the entire Internet direction collapsed. And traffic on the main site fell 6 times. But here, again, no one will call and say "oh, what a great specialist you were."
In general - who drags, that is loaded. And they load until they drag.
PS Here others suggest using a tracker and other constructive options. This can be attributed to advanced training and "work better", unfortunately, if you are made extreme in the company, no trackers and "work better" will not help. Yes, you can manage the current volume of cases, somehow fight off an inadequate attitude towards yourself, but is it worth it to work like that? Somehow I "collaborated" with one employer - he had a great feature - by the time of the salary, call him in and try to find jambs in the work, after which the conversation should be translated into the format "well, you see, you did not deserve a salary in full." You can, of course, argue, set aside your point of view (which I did), but is it worth working in such conditions? When every month they put in the position "and prove that you deserve a salary."
There is only one moral - you need to run from such places. And the faster the better. Nerve cells do not regenerate.

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Andrey Pletenev, 2017-04-01
@Andrey_Pletenev

Talk to each PM one-on-one. Without ambition and ambition, but humanly. You can even drink beer or tea. A normal PM would have to do this himself, seeing that you are annoyed. But perhaps you are hiding your feelings or Pm's are still inexperienced. Proceed from the fact that you are doing one thing with them and should help each other. Tell him what you think is hindering your productive work together and offer your options for interaction. Operate with facts, not emotions, discuss actions, not personalities. A normal PM will react normally to this and explain why he acts the way he does or will change his behavior. If you can't come to a common solution, go to higher management. After that, enlightenment will descend on you, or you will stop working together.

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