Eugene2015-10-03 21:39:31
Eugene, 2015-10-03 21:39:31

Agency on Upwork or sawing yourself?

The question is. If you hire freelancers to your agency, do they see the initial price of the order? Or just the one that I offer them?
The background is as follows:
I started working on Upwork recently, about two months. Before that, as usual, I smoked blogs and forums, from which I deduced a strategy, at first, to recruit small and cheap works in order to gain reviews and then to place good orders.
I took the first three jobs in the first two weeks. He did a good job, the customers are satisfied, one has already applied again. Well, here I spread my wings and grabbed a bunch of small works, so much so that now I'm sewing up. I have already refused one order, I myself wrote to the customer that I am not pulling, I have to refuse, etc. Parted friends.
It turned out to be the opposite. At the beginning, I was worried that it was difficult to take an order, as everyone writes on the net. But it turned out that it is enough just to win over the customer. So simple that now I don’t know where to run)
Well, in general, I feel that I can’t do without help.
Somewhere here, Puma answered that he hires freelancers for 50% of the order. I would like to know how people agree to 50%?
Of course, I won’t be able to offer them a lot from these orders, orders for $ 20-100, but you look there, I will continue to hire.
UPD: I work in the field of "Design and Creative"

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Think With Your Head, 2015-10-03

Do you need to calculate whether it is profitable at all?
Let's say if you earn more in a week as a developer than an intermediary manager, whose duties include:
1) Find orders. Fatter (you will have to share with others) and more
2) Find adequate freelancers who cope with tasks within the specified time frame
3) Calculate the risks of being abandoned by freelancers
4) Calculate the risks of being abandoned by the customer, because you have already paid freelancers or promised to pay
5) Wasting time on negotiations not only with customers, but also with freelancers
6) Spending nerves on negotiations not only with customers, but also with freelancers. The latter may refuse to fix any bugs that have arisen or ask for additional money. Here, with the customer, sometimes you fight about various edits, and imagine freelancers on the other hand will press you with their dissatisfaction with the fact that they need to edit it all. Or you yourself will have to rule, but then you will burn out faster than if you worked in one, because. you still have points 1 to 5.
Now, if all this seems to you really more profitable than writing code calmly - good luck)
The average rate of a successful developer is $15-35/hour. About 1000 bucks a week. Well, at least $500. Are you ready to pay so much money per week to someone, or is it easier to get it yourself and grow as a programmer to more interesting levels of $50-70? Managers don't earn that much, unless in large IT companies.
And also - 20-100 bucks is not serious at all for a performer, you have to work with the Indians or our local shkolota - do you need it?
I also thought about being an intermediary here, taking projects for 500 bucks, giving half to our local guys, because. the rate jumped, i.e. these would be normal performers, not shkolota and Indians, but I calculated everything and realized that it was more profitable to work in one helmet, since there would be less pain, and the free $ 250 for the intermediary doing nothing would turn out to be not so free

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