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Stas9002015-11-17 23:30:04
Law in IT
Stas900, 2015-11-17 23:30:04

When should a project be patented?

Good afternoon .
I want to implement my project. It is an app and real estate marketplace.
The project requires investments: about 500 thousand rubles for the creation and about 5 million for maintenance during the free period. There are programmers who are ready to take on my project.
But I do not understand how I can legally savvy.
First, they must post-create and maintain the project.
For this they want 30% of the profit, as the project starts to make a profit. That is, after full payment, so as not to be without a project. Then, in order to oblige them to service the project, so that it doesn’t happen that I invested, spent 400 thousand, and they told me that they were no longer interested and left.
So I need to patent my project at what stage so that programmers cannot deceive me and it didn’t work out so I pay for their project.
To oblige them to further cooperation and that I be the director of the project, what contracts for this need to be drawn up with the performers and at what point it is necessary to patent or what else to do so that only I am the creator of this project.
And in general, what other legal aspects do you need to know?

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nirvimel, 2015-11-18
@nirvimel

I want to implement my project.

And I think it's very original. The programmers themselves would never have thought of this.
But I understand that the project carries big risks.
But they also seem to understand that the project carries great risks. And they don’t want to take such risks on themselves, but just want to get their money for the work done.
But I want to shift all the risks to the performers so that they are responsible for the payback of my project.
I came up with this whole scheme, so I'm the director. In addition, I am a businessman, and they are simple slaves, their fate is to live from paycheck to paycheck, and I am going to success.
Except for the labor code, which I don't like at all.
Russian business in all its glory.

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sim3x, 2015-11-17
@sim3x

No way
Even in the US
Yes, and the patent will not help here - there is no innovation
If you are afraid of a kidka, then you should make the first version with a company with a reputation.
And the next saw yourself. So get ready to become an amine
, a programmer, a team leader and a project manager all rolled
into
one programmers and all financial affairs within the enterprise to tie on themselves. Especially connections with those who will bring income to the enterprise

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Neonoviiwolf, 2015-11-18
@Neonoviiwolf

It's funny. Deign to read how it is necessary to conduct and implement the project. There is such a thing as documentation, if your greedy slaves do it correctly, then any competent programmer will be able to support the project further. It’s also worth reading about contracts and what can be written in them, though don’t be zealous, write something that contradicts our TC and you can wipe your ass with the contract.
ps Serfdom was abolished in 1861, if someone wants to leave, he will leave

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jackroll, 2015-11-18
@jackroll

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Look at this picture. I just wrote a reply to the HR, who found me on LinkedIn herself.
In my opinion, whether a person understands technology or not, what kind of code he writes, how he joins the team, what kind of knowledge he has, all this can be seen in a week or two. A trial period of 3 months is super-arrogance and a divorce for dallars, despite the fact that this trial period is now being pulled everywhere. Often after the probationary period they send to x * d and take new ones, because in the amount of the probationary period, as a rule, they put 30-50% less salary.
I was looking for a job for a very long time and just fucking. I found it with some, I was late on the first day for 3 minutes, FOR 3 MINUTES, they said to write an explanatory note. I, of course, scored and went home.
I was often called for interviews, I googled reviews and realized that people were just either on a turnover or without a salary, or for a penny with overtime, like they come up with level b fines for all sorts of shit.
Or I went to several funds. Let's omit the fact that there are not seed investments at all, but already raiding of finished projects (seriously, the conditions are just f*ck), but these all sorts of start-ups are recruiting people with salaries up to 30k, and an IRREGULAR working day. Those. they're there f*ashut with the weekend.
In general, it was easier for me to start freelancing for Canadians through upwork than to find a job in Moscow. How do you generally get along?
If I am disconnected from the Internet, I would rather be a loader than a programmer in this country.
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There is a fund to which various investors and other funds have contributed money. This fund is looking for IDEAS, maximum prototypes of projects in which they invest money. At the same time, they understand that 98% will not take off, but those 2% that will take off will give such a profit that they will cover the losses from 98% of other projects and make a profit. All that the fund does is evaluate the prospects for the success of projects (for example, does the team have experience in the past, do they have other successful projects, are there any analogues of projects, what idea, etc.) and if nothing comes of it, then they are ready for it.
What is in the Russian Federation - you must ALREADY have a project that shows profit. And they call it seed investment, f*ck. Often they want someone to invest in the project, for example, a foreign investor, plus you brought it with your money. And they evaluate according to a simple model, if, for example, 1 lead or client costs 100 rubles (advertising for it), and the service or monetization from it costs 120 rubles, then this is good, so be it, they will give you money that you DO NOT enough for nothing.
what is 600 or 800 rubles? Only one programmer-student, junior, which is enough for less than a year on this money.
in the West they give hundreds of thousands of dollars, we have 800 rubles.
At the same time, you are limited onally. They introduce a second signature, their 10% of rights are more than your 90%, you can’t do anything without your consent. In fact, if at one moment they want to throw you out, they will easily do it.
I know some motherfuckers, because their project did not take off, they were forced to WORK in one of the funds.
At the same time, they work there while they are without days off and irregularly, they are driven there with a whip, damn it, count. And they call this slavery - a mandatory program of acceleration. It's just fucked up.
Those. in fact, they deprive you of the right to make decisions, make you work like a slave, according to the conditions they can easily trade a share, they take only projects that already show profit for a penny. And they call this seed investment.

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