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Listyev12019-10-12 06:17:25
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Listyev1, 2019-10-12 06:17:25

What to expect in IT after the army?

After graduating from a bachelor's degree in IT specialty, like everyone else, the question arose - what to do next, taking into account the fact that you are at military age. Without thinking twice, between the magistracy and the army, I chose the army, because time is the main factor, and work with studies in the magistracy is most often combined problematic, after which you also leave for the army. However, what is happening in the army and the programming process are at the most different poles, and, most likely, after it it will take enough time to adapt to work, to catch up on knowledge. Who went the same way? How did the career develop? What can be done in the army to at least slightly avoid degradation?
PS None of the programmers I knew who came to fruition were in the army, and it's hard to imagine how it fits in. Usually, it is assumed that good programmers start working either from the university or even from school, then miraculously avoid the army, and accordingly without any regression, which is why legitimate questions arise.

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Andrew, 2019-10-12
@deepblack

How is programming in the army?
The influence of the army on programming knowledge?
Master's degree, postgraduate study, army. Which path to take?
Work after the army: is it easy to recover and find a job?

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This I mean that before asking a question, it is better to search.
After all, your situation is not unique.

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Saboteur, 2019-10-12
@saboteur_kiev

Without thinking twice, between the magistracy and the army, I chose the army, because time is the main factor

So you think that a year (or more) of lost time in the army will have a positive effect on your development?
The brain works the way it used to. 5 years at the institute is not at all equal to 5 lost years, because you are constantly learning something, training your memory and logic.
In the army, you will train obedience, how to get out, how to get out. Of the good - physical training, but in IT it is not critical.
There are people who, after the army, were able to work in IT, but this is too individual. The average for an IT specialist - the loss of time is precisely the army.

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Do_it, 2019-10-13
@Do_it

What can be done in the army to avoid stupidity? Nothing. Even if you settle down somewhere as a clerk (read as a PC user), most of the time you will still be doing something according to the principle of "carry round, roll square", just a little freer compared to the rest of the privates. But here is one point - enough people are now able to handle computers at the level of working in Excel and some kind of Corel Draw so that you fly past such places. In the rest of the scenarios, things will definitely not come to self-improvement, because there will be no free time (especially at the beginning). It’s hard to get into programming after the army (I speak from my own experience), you just get used to the fact that something can go out of order, you live according to the schedule for a whole year. Plus, it constantly pulls out of habit to hang off work or throw it on others, it’s really hard to wean from this. As a result - if there is an opportunity to mow down - mow, there is nothing useful in the army.

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Maxim Dunayevsky, 2019-10-13
@dunmaksim

The only piece of advice I can give is: NEVER TELL ANYONE YOU CAN USE A COMPUTER .
The army does not need IT workers. They are used for their intended purpose, like a microscope - for hammering nails, that is, as secretaries. All good documentation should be maintained by unit commanders, but I have never seen anything like this anywhere. The task falls on a selected enlisted man, in very, very rare cases, two. The volume of work is such that it is better to go two outfits in a row than to be a company clerk.
There is a special breed of asshole commanders who set tasks around 21:00. At 10:00 p.m., the command "Hang out" sounds, at 22:30 the regiment duty officer comes and checks whether everyone is asleep. At 22:35, after his departure, you get up and go to the office, where until 2-3 in the morning you make notes, certificates, drill notes, expenses, etc. And rise with everyone. From cleaning and other work, too, no one will release. You should not even hope that they will give you an hour's nap during the day. This hour is for everyone except you.

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leviosa, 2019-10-12
@leviosa

Why not go to a master's program at a university where there is a military department? Yes, the opportunity to work fully is even less, but you can safely go for 20-30 hours a week

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Roman Molchanov, 2019-10-14
@Dobryak88

I can't talk about developers, but from personal experience I can say that a year in the army did not become an obstacle to the career of a system administrator. I sat at the computer for six months, doing all sorts of garbage (first of all, documentation). There was a wagon of free time, if there was still access to the Internet at that time, I would not have known any problems at all.
Professional growth, of course, pauses. But to partially compensate for the loss, it will be possible at least by reading smart books.
Contrary to popular belief, people in the military do not suddenly become dumb if there are no personal prerequisites.
PS: however, now I still think that if it is possible not to give back the "debt to the Motherland", then it is better not to do this ..

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jarvis, 2021-10-20
@jarvis

You can come up with your own project, my friend went to the army and after that he launched his own small application.
PS in PM they asked what kind of project - https://dmb-timer.ru

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