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Alexander Ivanov2015-08-26 17:18:15
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Alexander Ivanov, 2015-08-26 17:18:15

What is needed for a painless transition to linux?

I want to switch from windows 8 to linux. From the vital: Chrome with add-ons, dropbox, max, instant messengers (skype, qq, icq). Recommend literature so as not to climb on trifles on the forums. Himself ITshnik, so not quite a "teapot"

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O Di, 2015-08-26
@Lazoreth

What literature should be chosen for mastering linux?

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FoxInSox, 2015-08-26
@FoxInSox

Big eggs.

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abs0lut, 2015-08-26
@abs0lut

What is needed for a painless transition to linux?

Need a virtual machine to try out before switching to GNU/Linux entirely.
Motivation is needed, because "Linux for the sake of Linux" is a bad reason to make friends with the OS.
You need to be prepared for problems and difficulties, and, as a result, be able to google solutions to problems.
I recommend it, although more and more often I meet the opinion that it does not justify itself, and the whole point is in practical experience.
Shotts W.E. Jr. - The Linux Command Line - A Complete Introduction - 2012
Barrett DJ - Linux Pocket Guide - 2012
Brian Ward - How Linux Works - What Every Superuser Should Know (2nd edition) - 2014
Lewis JK - Linux Utilities Cookbook - 2013
Linux Bible - 8th Edition
Scott Granneman - Linux. Required code and commands. Pocket Guide - 2010
Evie Nemeth - Unix and Linux. System Administrator's Guide - 2012
I think you will spend a little more time on the forums than you think.

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AVKor, 2015-08-26
@AVKor

Remove Windows immediately, otherwise it will pull to boot into it.

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Sergey, 2015-08-26
@zenden2k

Fast Internet, strong nerves, eye drops, and a flash drive with which you can reinstall Windows.

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Alexander Burov, 2015-08-27
@AquiHostStrider

Two things.
1) Determine the range of tasks to be solved.
2) Draw up an action plan.
From time immemorial, the transition to Linux from Mazda has been hampered by two things: the first is playing, the second is compatibility with Negrosoft Office. Gamers and fans are unlikely to want to mess around with emulation settings, and Linux Steam is still poor. But all the old games I know work smoothly. As for the transition to LibreOffice - the problem with scripts in *.xlsx - the functions behave a little differently, so if you have complex bookkeeping, then the scripts will have to be rewritten in places. With fonts, the problem is solved by installing them (your K.O.). With the interpretation of html-application (*.hta) -- installing the ie6forlinux stray. Everything else that does not have normal alternatives - Photoshop and so on - works well in emulation (WineX). Yes, the main method of installing and uninstalling software is not by running setup.exe, but by using the package managerfrom the connected repositories (well, almost like in Android, go to the market, yes).
Further - as they correctly said - play in a virtual machine, only the virtual machine must be with EFI and support booting from images with a GPT partition table. Then, as you learn Zen, organize multiboot, try to put it on a real machine next to Win8. Move C:\Users to a separate volume and mount it under Linux in /home. Then - gradually transfer the software settings (Chrome profile and everything else). Then - demolish Mazda.

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AlikDex, 2015-08-26
@AlikDex

stock up on patience. The first time will be zhostka sausage.
And so, a bunch of question-answer format forums. There are no problems with this.

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Michael G-, 2015-08-26
v @mac25

... the same thing as when quitting smoking XD, but in general I switch to Linux because of "LOVE" to the brainchild of diBil Gates, because of his vile office and because these fucking capitalists are gradually striving to plant us like a needle on their own creation, so that we slobber them with more dough, to hell with them and not sanctions, I will use Windows exclusively for games and then pirated ones, my motto is: NOT A PENNY FOR ABROAD!!! I'd better send money to the rutracker admin for beer

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Rail Khamdeev, 2015-08-27
@rhamdeew

Eh, they painted about a higher pain threshold and something else like that. It feels like we are living in 2004.
Linux on the desktop has been up and running for a long time and looks very friendly. To study, I would advise you to install VirtualBox and roll one of the common distributions there (for example, Mint or Ubuntu).

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igor travov, 2015-08-28
@estj

It is necessary to fall in love with something in Linux, where everything is somehow pleasant, it is customizable ...
I have a command line and utilities and more and more with my fingers, not with a mouse ... I keep
7-8 folders (directories) open in different terminal
splash screens (for me, the usual ubunta1510 and in another section 1404, the third and fourth
sections for any working archives),
4 desktops - enough, two monitors (native laptop and external) - and
not necessarily
synchronous, - this is, as it were, usually for a developer ..... Games passed me by, already old,
in Linux - Unix, I don’t remember how many decades (I won’t scare, all home computers are on it). I remember something about IKSPI - then, at that job, it was necessary ...).
Of your applications, I advise Blender3D (if you have 3dsmax),
now even NASA uses it .....
Ie. no inconvenience - a matter of habit .....
By the way, synAptic says - 46500 with something packages, ie. for almost all cases, look, choose, download and use ....
And the book - here - Eric S. Raymond "The Art of Programming for Unix" .
And man, apropos, info are local native help for various applications....

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Ivan Petrovich, 2015-08-31
@siteke

How I switched to Linux.
It was Windows 7, I first put it on a virtual machine, figured it out, looked, it seemed to fit.
Later, I put it on the second OS (grub to help), but the priority was still on Windows, you never know what might be needed.
Then I set Ubutnu to start by default, while I took a good look, I configured it as it was convenient for me. I turned on Ubuntu for my mother, I didn’t really notice the difference. Well, in the future, I generally deleted from and did not bathe.
So everything is in your hands!

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Konstantin Kitmanov, 2015-08-26
@k12th

Chrome works, add-ons obviously do too.
Dropbox is, Skype is, multiprotocol clients are.
If by "max" you mean 3DS Max, then no. Judging by the plate , it should start under the vine. Either Maya or Blender.

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Dmitry Pritykin, 2015-08-26
@maisvendoo

You need to install the system and start performing daily tasks in it. Register on a forum specialized for your chosen distribution. Do not be lazy to google difficult questions. The only way.
PS: And completely painless, alas, will not work. I know from personal experience of moving along the OpenSUSE -> Ubuntu -> Debian 6 -> Arch Linux chain. I stopped at the last one.

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Vitali, 2015-09-03
@vitall

To switch from Windows to Linux, you need a plan:
1. Transfer all information to Linux partitions (ext4, btrfs). If everything remains on ntfs, then it will slow down in any Linux. Therefore, you need to understand and decide how partitions are partitioned and mounted in Linux. (gparted, disks, mount).
2. If Windows is left, then select a section for it.
3. The biggest headache is encoding the tags of music files. This is where EasyTag comes to the rescue.
Otherwise, I don't see any problems. The biggest plus of Linux distributions is that you can then install a lot of different software to try and then just as easily remove it. Yes, it would be nice to learn how to do it through the console.
As for simply knowing the system, I was once helped by the book of Evi Nemeth - "Unix and Linux. System Administrator's Guide", everything is written in a very good language. After it, I realized that I was ready to install Gentoo. Which I did, but after running it for 2 years I returned to Ubuntu, now I use 14.04.
Here it is important to consider that in the world of free software, everything is constantly changing. And after some update, you will have to flatter the Internet and find out what the developers have done and how to live with it. Of course, this rarely concerns users of packaged distributions, but still there have been cases.

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magazovski, 2015-08-27
@magazovski

Everything that you listed is in OSX, and you know this, the real unix. You don't need to know the rest :)

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John_Alban, 2015-08-27
@John_Alban

Yes, nothing special is needed - I myself have been on Linux for 5 years, without any urge to go back. Now there is no Windows at all in the house - my wife and I have a Chromebook (with Ubuntu on chroot) + a server lab, naturally on Linux. The flight is normal.
Just take and install Mint or Ubuntu (I recommend Xubuntu - it's on xfce, it works noticeably faster than the standard one on Unity. And it looks prettier) - all the necessary software is there, stability is at the level, appearance and usability are at the level. You should not be afraid of the command line either - all the main actions can be done through the gui, applications can be installed through the software-manager (google market / app store similar store). I didn’t even open the console for the first year after the transition)
The only point is if you need specific Windows software to work. But in such a case, a virtual machine with a seven is simply made.

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Apophis Sauron, 2015-08-29
@Hunter_t5000

If this is all you need to be happy, then there will be no problems with the transition. Chrome with add-ons, dropbox, Skype is natively running on Linux. Messengers also have a choice. For example, Pidgin is a multiprotocol combine.

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Dmitry, 2015-09-03
@pilip

Almost 2 years since I moved to linux. I just wanted to try it one day. I plugged in a USB HDD and installed Ubuntu in VirtualBox, drove it, installed all kinds of DE, settled on Cinnamon, then deleted everything and installed it on the new Linux Mint 16, having tested it under a virtual machine and found all the programs needed for work, rearranged the screws. That's all, Windows was needed only for .... but I don’t need it for anything anymore)
only a couple of times in a virtual machine from under linux I launched it for sooo big photoshop files (they work under Vine but up to 25Mb)
So ONLY you need a desire , rest search...

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ckaMM, 2015-09-03
@ckaMM

desire and the internet. and, it would be nice to have a Linux friend. and demolish the vein. straightaway. at first it will be hard, but then .... I myself have been on Debian for 5-6 years (+/-). there is no Windows (computer / laptop - debian, telephony / tablet - android). however, I don’t play games (although Steam is installed under the 8th debian without problems), the office is openOffice (enough for my tasks, because I basically need a console and ide, a system administrator / programmer to work). friends/acquaintances/relatives bring laptops/computers from time to time to get over Windows - "working" on it is a perversion (IMHO). passed - quickly gave. my father-in-law (600 km away from me) also installed debian. they have enough, if something needs to be done - I do it remotely (ssh).

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lVlOzART, 2015-09-03
@lVlOzART

Didn't move right away. Actively used wines 7, wines 8.x and sometimes dabbled in the virtual machine with fedora mint or bubunta. Then I had to set up IP Telephony in the office and there was no more complete manual than for ubuntu + * + FreePBX. From that stage I switched to the console. It broke wildly, because googled even going to folder, copying files, permissions, etc. In the end, the problem was solved, but sports (as far as it can be called sitting on the fifth point) interest remained. As a result, at home there are 2 laptops with Ubuntu LTS, a virtual machine with XP - the laptop is weak, I use XP exclusively for 1C Money, because until I figured out how to "license" 1C 8.3 in ubuntu, and the portable version does not run from under the vine, unlike all the other programs I need. In principle, I don’t consider myself a “guru”, but I made the transition. Comfort will not come immediately but at least to broaden your horizons, try and try something other than Windows. And set yourself interesting tasks, trying to solve them from the GUI and through the terminal, then quickly learn simple things.

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Sanes, 2015-08-26
@Sanes

Launch LiveCD

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Alexander Ivanov, 2015-08-26
@Lazoreth

The pain threshold is high, the desire for patience and perseverance is also present. Let's get to the point, for sure there is some kind of booklet or article a la FAQ

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Roger, 2015-08-26
@mrquake

sudo

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Kirill Khalitov, 2015-08-26
@Voronar

I myself switched from Windows 7 to Linux (OpenSuse-KDE --> Debian-KDE --> Ubuntu).
In terms of software development, I did not feel any pain, on the contrary.
In terms of entertainment, there are some difficulties, but no one is forcing you to uninstall Windows.
As a result, a couple of articles from the Internet were enough to start.

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Vlad Feninets, 2015-08-26
@fnnzzz

Windows at work is just hell.
switched to linux about 1.5 months ago, left Windows - downloaded it for all this time at most once, even for a long time was not enough.
sometimes I raise a virtual machine from win7 home edition for photoshop, because on linux you need crutches and dances to run fsh.
Windows 10 is at home - as for a home desktop, it suits me just fine.
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everything that you described as "vitally important" is under linux. The only thing is that Skype on Linux somehow didn’t work for me, so I’m sitting on web.skype.com and somehow I don’t even complain.

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Alexey Zus, 2015-08-27
@lexzus07

Good day!
1.First, check out the Internet for proper installation of Linux.
2.Choose a distribution kit for yourself (I recommend Ubuntu or Mint, because there is a fairly large set of standard software and they are more friendly to a novice user)
3.further, various sites with information regarding Linux will help.
I can recommend the Compizomania website. Very good in terms of the amount of information about Linux.
4. The first time, of course, will not be familiar. system other than the Windows family. Everything new takes some getting used to. The main thing is time and desire. We set a goal to deal with Linux - forward to it!
Good luck!

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Viktor Kran, 2015-08-27
@ash_lm

By the way, there is a free course "Introduction to Linux" on stepic.org. I don't know how useful overall. I only looked at the first lessons myself, they are definitely from scratch and for complete beginners.

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Vadim, 2015-08-27
@vadikvs

I recently switched from win 7 to Linux, I didn’t like it when I started with Ubuntu, now I installed dEBIAN 8 because I had experience with Debiana administration, I really liked it with Gnom, on 3 DVDs there is almost all the software that you might need in everyday life, and everything is free.
I don't play games, so it was even easier for me to switch. Chrome, skype, everything can be installed if there is Internet. not much more difficult than in Windows.

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acspro, 2015-08-27
@acspro

I personally had a hemorrhoid with the installation of photoshop CC. And so everything is normal.

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Ivan, 2015-08-27
@Amigo83

To begin with, answer a simple question: "Why?" If you are interested in what UNIX systems are and how they work, what bash and shell are, then first buy a big thick one and read it. After that, you can install Linux and try to customize the system for yourself. Well, if it’s just for the sake of “getting off the mastday and switching to a cool hacker axis,” then there’s no point. For a simple user with everyday tasks, I see absolutely no point in switching.

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Dvvarreyn, 2015-08-27
@Dvvarreyn

Lack of drivers for wifi card under Windows.
At least that's how it went for me.

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globuser, 2015-08-27
@globuzer

For a painless transition from Windows to Linux, the most important thing is your own desire, interest, curiosity, patience, perseverance, motivation, and very importantly - courage!
Having all this, you can dig up any literature, dig up any documentation, even in English, and all the mana in Linux will be your real and primary reference material.

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Alexander, 2015-09-03
@Aleserche

Time.

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Alexey Yamschikov, 2015-09-03
@mobilesfinks

Tired of reading replies.
In general, roll Linux for yourself (I installed Mint with Cinnamon for myself, it looks a bit like a Windows interface), install VirtualBox and Windows in it.
Virtual machine for the software that you can't run under Lin. Everything else under Lin is, almost the same as under Windows - instant messengers, skype, chrome, office. Well, then just don't go back to Windows - no matter how much you would like at the beginning.

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Mikhail Zelenkin, 2015-09-03
@cheshircat

1. Time and patience, a lot.
2. Do not be afraid of the console, this is generally the most wonderful GUI that man has invented =))
3. Be able to google and read documentation, including in English.
4. Back up.
Next
1. Find a distribution that attracts, you can start with Ubuntu. Downloading.
2. We are loaded from Live CD, we test.
3. Install the system in a virtual machine and study, configure. When we feel confident in our abilities, we put on real iron. It is better if there is also a computer with the Internet at hand during installation.
If you can allocate a computer for experiments, then you can carry virtual machines :)
There is nothing complicated in the transition itself. The main thing is to deal with the equipment and find the right programs.

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ZoomLS, 2015-09-03
@ZoomLS

In fact, any modern GNU/Linux distribution has long been easy to learn even for a simple user. Usually everything works out of the box, if you don’t have some very exotic hardware there, but this can be solved.
First, choose a distribution. For example - openSUSE, Fedora, Ubuntu, etc. Choose the user's graphical environment - Gnome and KDE are mainstream, there are others, but you can look at them later, when you are already comfortable. After migrating from Windows, KDE is more suitable. will more resemble the interface of Windows, which will be easier to start with. There are a lot of distributors. You can try to install several on a virtual machine, play around / work in different ones and choose the one that you like best. Each distribution has its own philosophy.
Installation is usually simple and straightforward (depending on the distribution, but all modern ones have a user-friendly installation interface). The only caveat is that you will need to create a swap partition on your hard drive for the swap file. But, if you have a lot of RAM, then this is not necessary. Usually its size is made depending on the amount of RAM, i.e. for example, if the RAM is 4 gigabytes, then swap is also done by 4 gigabytes.
You need to understand that GNU / Linux has a system of repositories through which it is very easy and simple to manage software in the system - install new, update, delete, etc. Downloading packages (that's what GNU/Linux software is called) from somewhere on the net is very rare these days. Therefore, forget the stupid search for software on some sites, downloading, and then installing with the eternal "next" - everything is easier and faster in GNU/Linux.
When installing the system, some repositories are usually already connected. But, these are standard. And often you need to connect additional packages with the packages you need. Where to get them and what you may need - this will already depend on the chosen distribution.
Browsers are all native, except for IE and Safari - but this is not a big loss)
Messengers are full. For example - pidgin, kopete and others. They have a vast mass of plugins through which you can connect icq, jabber, facebook chat, skype, etc.
Skype - if needed, natively available. Installed from the official site.
In principle, such small guides may be enough to start mastering. Books are still worth reading, no matter what. I can’t recommend anything from books for beginners, because. I myself have been in the subject for more than 10 years and I don’t even know approximately what kind of literature there is now. Books that focus on the distribution of your choice might work well. Very old books are probably useless to look at. Because a lot of water has flown. Systemd alone is worth something. But I can advise you to read the book by Linus Torvalds "Just For Fun" - so to speak, to understand the philosophy of Linux and why all this was necessary. They used to say that every Linuxoid should read it ;)

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Mikhail Shatilov, 2015-09-05
@iproger

It’s easy to go, but when you want to roll into toys, you understand that you won’t be able to go.
Especially when you have a 128 ssd and putting 2 OSes together is not a variant.

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Tonna, 2015-09-15
@Tonna

Moved to 2007. The main thing is not to download windows for two weeks and let it go.
Recently, my sister (41) brought a laptop for virus cleaning. I put xubuntu on it.
Doesn't call, no questions. A month later I ask: "Well, how?". Yes, he says everything flies, everyone likes it.
So I was surprised, no breaking.

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