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Narical2012-05-21 08:38:56
Siemens
Narical, 2012-05-21 08:38:56

Siemens s75 replacement?

Does anyone know? I explain in more detail: the phone needs a sane price, support / availability of native (not java) software, multitasking, the wildest responsiveness of the interface, it is desirable to have a large number of patches with fine tuning. Also, t9 would be sane - on the SE j108i "Cedar" it is completely insane - sometimes it takes more button presses to write an unknown t9 word than without t9 at all.
Several years have passed since the loss of s75, all this time wept, pricked, ate cacti. I tried to deal with patches for SE, I couldn’t, especially since the community was formed around this with a claim to commerce - they are hungry for money for “repainting” the phone for the dev version.
I suddenly found an opportunity to buy s75 on Internet flea markets, I’m thinking of exchanging my SE Cedar ... But the question arises -Hasn't anything better come along in so many years? Former Siemens owners, how do you survive in the world of modern telephone trash? The main reason for the question is that it will be hard to manage with GPRS alone, without 3g.
I do not consider the Android option for two important reasons:
1) I do not accept the touch screen. Fashion is fashion, but I very often type texts on an intercity bus, for example, large texts. Only hardware keyboard. qwerty-clave is not interested.
2) Software for android (as far as I understand) is not native software, it works with the help of a java layer. To make it clear - on s75, the launch speed of native ICQ and "opera" was subjectively equal to zero: the rendered program interface appeared on the screen exactly at the moment the contacts in the button were touched to launch the application. Sounds fantastic, but it's true.
Is there an analogue in the modern telephone world? Phones with firmware unearthed by enthusiasts, with a live community. I heard something about Asus smarts, there have been mentions about Motorola for a long time, maybe it’s better to deal with SE after all - tell me?

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Sartor, 2012-05-21
@Sartor

I had an S75. I went with him from the end of 2006 to 2009. I resigned myself to the fact that there would be no such thing in the world and took HTC Legend. Yes, the fastest device I've ever seen was the Siemens S75. Native applications were simply amazing with their speed after Java.

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Alexander Starostin, 2012-05-21
@al1k

Instant rendering of the interface? blackberry. But most modern models have either a touchscreen or qwerty (or both). There is one exception - Pearl 3G.
Large texts, no qwerty on t9 - you definitely want something weird.
But in Blackberry non-Android side, there will be no system patches, although much can be customized. Software - java. You will have to buy it, although most good software has Lite or trial versions.
Asus is now on android, they used to be on WM. WM-th were not bad.
Motorola - also went into and the rest of the phones on the Russian market are not represented.
Alternatively, look at Nokia. They also make more or less classic phones, with the ability to install software.

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Roman Kulakovich, 2012-05-21
@Wernisag

Where are you my Benq-Siemens EF81… The best phone I ever had. For 4 years after the loss, I did not find anything similar or similar ((I cry, I prick, I eat cacti.

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Narical, 2012-05-21
@Narical

Apparently, there are still no options. We'll have to take Siemens s75 in 2012.
al1k , "look at Nokia" does not work here, no smartphones will work here. Without exception, all the smarts that I felt are unacceptably slow for me. at the operating system level. Defeating OS brakes by buying a hot high-speed brick ... Well, well
, in the example I gave, people unearthed binary firmware, developed an application loader in .elf format for Siemens, and created something like their own operating system based on non-smarts. How reactive she was can be understood only by holding the device in her hands. I can only say that since then I have not held in my hands anything comparable fast.
I was hoping that in the 5-7 years since the release of Siemens s75, at least some alternative had been created - in the sense that it would be possible for third-party developers to write software in C and compile it for ARM. The processors are becoming more and more stupid, but this nonsense is spent on the work of the brake frameworks and the Java machine, and the user interface continues to slow down ... Only all these iPhones and androids warm the atmosphere.
Well, a link for an example: s75.st-hunter.ru/ Those who
are interested can read the latest news on the site, about the latest added features.

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ValdikSS, 2012-05-21
@ValdikSS

Yes, I was also the owner of Siemens. These are great phones, but not for 2012.
Look towards androids with a qwerty keyboard.

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Alexander Starostin, 2012-05-21
@al1k

Instant rendering of the interface? blackberry. But most modern models have either a touchscreen or qwerty (or both). There is one exception - Pearl 3G.
Large texts, no qwerty on t9 - you definitely want something weird.
But the Blackberry will not have any system patches, although much can be customized. Software - java. You will have to buy it, although most good software has Lite or trial versions.
Asus is now on android, they used to be on WM. WM-th were not bad.
Motorola also moved towards Android, and the rest of the phones are not represented on the Russian market.
Alternatively, look at Nokia. They also make more or less classic phones, with the ability to install software.

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eiji, 2012-05-21
@eiji

Look towards Symbian - Nokia C5-00 :
- Hard keyboard
- Non-touch screen
- Native software (Qt)
- Classic case

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