New androids from HTC - release date?

Question

Android

Comrades, I googled everything, I can’t find at least an approximate date for the appearance of the new Desire on the shelves (I’m talking about HD & Z). I found an approximate price - about 26-27, but I can’t find the release date. Please help.

Answer 1

In clove they write that they expect Z on October 29th.

Answer 2

htc in Russia has a twitter and facebook .
they write there that the release of new products should not be expected until November 15, although at the beginning of the week they wrote that it would be possible to buy it already on the first day. We wait :(

Answer 3

In Russia, HD is promised on the 15th, Z - on the 29th