"Movement" for passwordless Wi-Fi among "unlimited" home users

Question

WiFi

I visited the idea to establish a "movement", the essence of which is to open access to their Wi-Fi points.

For six months now I have removed the password from myself, persuaded neighbors and friends.

Why is this? For example, when the Internet ends, but you urgently need to finish something, you connect to a neighbor. You walk down the street with a smartphone / laptop, sat on a bench under the house, went to the Internet.

In our city, it’s not quite stressful - the “standard” tariff of all providers is $ 10 for unlimited 25+ MB / s (this is the minimum, in fact, somewhere around 70-80 MB / s) - you don’t feel sorry for the traffic, the speed of the “freeloaders” is limited physical factors (walls), so the channel is also not particularly clogged.

The idea is this - I register a certain address, for example wifi-movement.org, there is a site with information about "movement", all "joined" call their points "wifi-movement.org", thus distributing this information.

Who thinks about this?

Answer 1

In Germany it is punishable.
Wash there for passwordless wi-fi - a fine of about 100-150 euros.
I don’t know how they will do it here, when banks and the government will be completely broken through such passwordless wi-fi - I don’t know, but I suspect that it’s similar.

Answer 2

I have personal photos and all sorts of documents on the network storage in free access. Anyone who can log into my wifi (or whom I will give the cord to the router) can freely work with these files, print on the printer and look at the webcam in the children's room.
Because of a strange person who needs the Internet, but who forgets to pay for it, I would not want to complicate the life of my family by entering some passwords, logins and other rubbish.
Tap water is also not very expensive, but this is not a reason for the whole entrance to go to me to wash.

Answer 3

I remembered a couple of quotes on this topic from bash.org.ru:
bash.org.ru/quote/409249
bash.org.ru/quote/406154

Answer 4

I think that through your point, someone will write on the regional extremist forum and they will send you. You are tormented by swallowing dust, proving that you are not an ass.

Answer 5

I think if there is such a problem with payment and there is an urgent need to go online, then you can go to a neighbor and ask for half a glass of Wi-Fi. Well, or exchange passwords. And to open it to anyone is a sin.

Answer 6

Cool idea. Now you can sit sniffing other people's contacts on your modem without straining at all and break the CIA through other people's Internets. (:

$10 for unlimited 25+ MB/s (this is the minimum, in fact somewhere around 70-80MB/s)

o.O but they don’t give me more than they should :(

Answer 7

This will only work if all people are honest, that is, it won’t work in the foreseeable future)
I personally don’t want people from Department K, for example, to come to me and say that someone from my IP indulges in extremist pedophilia or other filth ...
But if if everyone were honest, it would not be a pity ...

Answer 8

I have a passwordless point until one individual decided to download torrents through it in full growth.

Answer 9

> In our city, it’s not quite stressful - the “standard” tariff of all providers is $ 10 for unlimited 25+ MB / s (this is the minimum, in fact, somewhere around 70-80 MB / s)
Yes, Schaub, I lived like that (:

Answer 10

I'd rather look towards creating a password database.
those. the network is closed to outsiders, but open to "their own"

Answer 11

Don't take it as an advertisement, but ... have already come up with a similar idea.
MTS-FON

Answer 12

wifi4free.ru/wificenter.ru/
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Answer 13

For some time now I have been thinking about making a guest ESSID, but the thoughts about dishonest people stop me.
But in no case open your private network!

Answer 14

Of course, there are fears about “external extremists”, but even now cities are full of cafes with free Wi-Fi. Do they all play kamikaze and stupidly substitute for potential hackers?

Answer 15

I live in the Czech Republic, there are free access points on every corner - both home and various cafes (without a password, you don’t need to go inside and take anything), and institutions (including government ones). My girlfriend lived for several months in a residential area and always used the neighbor's Internet. I myself know very well that I can walk 100-150 meters in Prague or another city with wifi turned on and at least some, but I will catch the point. Therefore, for the first year and a half, I did not have mobile Internet on my phone at all.
You reach neighboring Germany - that's it, ahtung, for the entire time you were in Germany, you only saw wifi without a password in the Apple store in Frankfurt, you specifically went into it for this (prices bite in roaming). Access points darkness, but everywhere the password! This is another aspect that reminds me of Russia - everyone goofs even a trifle for a neighbor or a stranger.
Is it so different density of hackers and pedophiles in the Czech Republic and Germany? Or maybe there are just more rednecks in Germany than in the Czech Republic?
I have an excellent initiative to fight pedophiles and extremists - to ban public WiFi altogether (restaurants, McDucks), each connection should be made upon presentation of a passport and a fingerprint to the monitor in the webcam. Otherwise, pedophiles can download movies from the public Internet in McDuck.
PS Not so long ago I visited my parents in Kamchatka, set up WiFi for my father at home - there is a great opportunity to make “public Internet”, with a separate SSID, without a password, but with a speed limit. For those people who find themselves in a difficult situation and urgently need to send a letter - enough. I have sometimes been in such situations, I had to look at the schedule of the next train, send an urgent message and was extremely grateful to the Czechs who do not block access to their home outlets.

Answer 16

You can sniff someone else's contacts, or you can password-protect the point and name it "Password: <password to the point>". Those who need to understand.
Only the owner should be aware of all responsibility for the possible consequences.
People who understand computers can protect themselves somehow. For example, prohibit communication with other network devices except the gateway at the point and configure tor for example.

Answer 17

Well, if you do this, you need to set at least full logging of everything that happens. As far as I know, there is software for this.
And so, you can do such a weird thing that then you will prove for a long time that it's not you.
And yes, often admins forget to close the router's admin panel, and a more or less experienced user can completely break it.

Answer 18

А тем, у кого расшарена частная информация в сети или боится доступа детскопорнографических экстремистов через свой айпи, обезопаситься довольно просто — не расшаривать свою сеть)) Все же доюровольно)
Are you kidding or don't quite understand the technical side of the issue?
By default, your external IP address will match, to the nearest octet, the IP address of the porn terrorist. The situation will be saved, for example, by such a feint - the guest wireless network is wrapped by the router in TOR or a third-party proxy server.

Answer 19

exactly. However, we do not have many cafes with Wi-Fi. And the idea to stir up something like this first came to me when I was walking along the main street and for some reason decided to see what kind of networks were around. Almost along the entire route there were 3-4 access points.

Answer 20

news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/2144279.stm

Answer 21

1. Unfortunately, most of the points installed by technical support employees / installers of providers, either because of the qualifications of the installers, do not have a password at all, or have some kind of standard one in order to simplify the life of the client and technical support in case of problems.
2. Baba Masha, to whom her daughter gave the Internet home, a laptop to make it more comfortable to sit on the couch, and a webcam to look at her granddaughter and grandmother, who is good if she knows how to launch Skype and mail without prompts every time from her daughter on the phone, hardly whether this will fool his head.
These are my personal thoughts as an employee of those support of a once large provider that left the market some time ago.

Answer 22

>Into the furnace. The owner will be responsible for illegal actions from the IP address.
Theoretically, we have a presumption of innocence for criminal offenses and administrative offenses. In this case, not only the fact that some illegal actions took place from this router / IP must be proved, but also that it was its owner who did them, and not his family, friends, acquaintances or just passers-by. Without a sincere confession, witnesses, or being caught red-handed, such crimes are theoretically unprovable. Civil "responsibility" is also difficult to sew, IMHO - routers, access points and computers are not means of increased danger (although, IMHO, it would be worth it), which means that their owner is not responsible for the illegal actions of third parties. The corresponding clauses in contracts with providers, IMHO, are void or relate, at most, to civil relations with the provider.
I foresee objections about “theoretically”, but personally, the presumption of innocence saved me and my ex-wife from being accused of, at a minimum, exceeding the measures of necessary defense, or even a murder that was not carried out due to circumstances beyond our control.

Answer 23

You can enable hotspot in DD-WRT. I myself open my Wi-Fi, but with authorization by poppy address. Previously, there was no authorization, but someone caught the virus, and it bothered me. The idea is good, but without the right to life.

Answer 24

And one fine day, employees of department K will come to visit and confiscate a computer with a router for trial for several months. There were precedents.
In an ideal world, a good idea.