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Pavel H2014-08-23 15:58:52
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Pavel H, 2014-08-23 15:58:52

Junior php is it worth trying to get a job as a programmer?

I am 22 years old, this summer I graduated from the University of Telecommunications and Informatics (5 years). Studied mainly c#/c++.
From the 4th year I worked as an SEO specialist, that is, the experience of programming as a job is zero. While working in SEO, I learned to type a little, work with various CMS, the number of sites that I saw from ftp 100+. Starting with Bitrix and ending with self-propelled guns. Sometimes I had to "crap", that is, insert my own small code in the site code, using if else.
Having worked in SEO for more than a year, having understood what prospects could await me in the future, and tired of the "bydlokod" and other SEO things, I decided to become a php developer.
I am slowly programming in the evenings and sometimes at lunch, in parallel I started looking at junior php vacancies.
Having studied the basics of the language, I realized 2 things:
1) To study the language in more depth during lunch to the noise of colleagues, as well as tired after a hard day at home, seems to me not very fruitful. On weekends, this business is easier, but during working days, the whole mood disappears.
2) It becomes not interesting to solve problems from the Internet, and thoughts begin to creep in that you will probably have to do something completely different at work, which means that my experience will be of little use to me at work.
Also, while reading the questionnaires, I noticed that everywhere they write about the same thing:
What is expected from the candidate:
1) diligence and desire to learn,
2) basic development skills in any programming language
3) desire to develop programming in <substitute the right> language
In my opinion, I fit under these descriptions, but for sure there are pitfalls somewhere.
I want to note right away that at the institute I almost didn’t program, because I worked and didn’t really like this business, but by the end of my studies, enlightenment began in my head and having seen various areas of work, I realized IT is cool, and decided to start joining IT with SEO .
I’m ready to work for 15-20k (I still don’t live in Moscow), but I would like to work in a serious company where they want a good specialist to grow from an employee, ready to work remotely, but as I understand it, junior and remotely these are not compatible things.
Reading habr and various articles on the Internet on the topic of what a junior should know, I realized that even a year would not be enough for me to learn all this in the evenings, and time is running out and SEO is already rather tired, so my question is:
Should I now start going to interviews and trying to pass myself off as a reference junior, or with my experience it will only be a waste of time?

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Push Pull, 2014-08-23
@killeat

Junior'om can already be considered if you know the basics. After all, juniors are usually taken just for training. However, they are also given a test task. My advice - you need these test tasks, by completing them you will become more experienced, even if you are not taken, lvl up will already be.
However, if the vacancy is without a job, and the requirements are nothing but "the ability to learn quickly and diligence" - 80% that they want to find a junior there, train him, make an intelligent developer out of him.
Bottom line - I think it's worth looking for, I think you will find a job, all the more remotely.
Only at the interview specify whether your training will be considered as work, or only in your free time, if it is - excellent, but if not - refuse.

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Cyril, 2014-12-06
@endemic

Judging by your question, you have the main thing - a sober assessment and a desire to learn. But you lack confidence. Self-confidence as a junior will appear when you make a couple of simple programs / sites.
I would recommend reading after work rather than on weekends. You can try to sleep after work for an hour, if it works :-)
From languages, I would recommend C# if there are vacancies in your city for it. By C #, you can find a bydlokodersky sharashkin konttora and a serious software company and enterprise. There is room for growth. Books - Troelsen & Sanderson (MVC Chewed + TDD + IoC)

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Konstantin Andreevich, 2014-08-23
@reffy

Of course it's worth it. You need to find a job and in practice already learn and develop. You can study in the evenings endlessly.

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