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Andrey Kulagin2019-12-25 22:11:20
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Andrey Kulagin, 2019-12-25 22:11:20

Junior age in frontend?

I’m studying the front end at the age of 34, I’m doing tasks from the course, but now I have doubts, even if I do several pet projects, learn algorithms and data structures, solve problems on this topic, learn English 4-5 thousand words, read books . What's next ? Who would be willing to take on an uncle at 35 with no experience in it? I look at the websites of it companies that are engaged in the front end, so there are employees in the photo and video for 20 years, everything ... now it seems to me that not a single hr will even miss an interview, and that there will be no peers or older colleagues at all in this front end , I’m actively looking there, mostly young people go there, who are older read what’s in java or c #, python, now I’ve stopped studying for a few days and I’m thinking whether it’s worth trying at all, I read on the forum at that age a person went through 10 interviews to get an offer, but he had experience in php and in IT all his life, I have a feeling that they won’t even invite me for an interview without profile experience and will be looked at as a IT specialist. Well, really, who works in the front end, tell us about the age of your colleagues, are there companies where they are generally ready to consider people from another generation for June? For several days now, for this reason, I can’t continue my studies, because it seems that it will be all in vain, I haven’t seen interactive courses in c # so that it’s convenient and understandable to study, there is also java and python, but in python there are 3-4 vacancies on juna in Moscow time in total, that is, I will receive invitations to interviews at best once every six months, on jave I read more people on Junes at the age of coming, but there it is also necessary to download mathematics more seriously and it will take longer and the question is also how to break through among the army of former students. I tried 1s, I don’t like this bookkeeping at all, although there are decently aged people there, well, or if I really don’t have any chances in IT, go to work as a security guard

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Saboteur, 2019-12-25
@saboteur_kiev

It's not age that matters, it's the ability to work. Young people often lack the skill to "work". Many people confuse learning a language with understanding programming.
Many people confuse work and internship. Many generally confuse work and education, they believe that juniors at work are obliged to teach something and give career growth.
Old for a junior is 50+. There are already questions why and how. But at this age, people usually retrain either within the company or in another proven way.

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Anton Shvets, 2019-12-25
@Xuxicheta

You are looking at the problem from the wrong end. The question is not age, but whether you have enough fuse to master everything you need. To do this, you need to have an interest in work, be ready to absorb more and more new knowledge and think.
Is it necessary - that is the question. If it doesn't work on its own, then it probably won't. If it comes in, then there are no problems, there are only temporary difficulties.
I changed my profession at an older age, but I didn’t ask such questions at all, I was just looking for a job, and the junior stage passed very quickly, although only now I’m starting to realize how much I really don’t know. Well, most 20-year-olds are not really competitors at all.
More often, it’s not even the programming skill that decides, but the ability to understand the problem and find ways to solve it, as it is required for business.

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BasiC2k, 2019-12-25
@BasiC2k

The minus of the current twenty-year-olds is the desire to get a lot simply for the fact of existence.
Your generation still has the principle of "airplanes first", so you definitely have a chance.

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Ivan Shumov, 2019-12-25
@inoise

All this is possible, it’s just that they will present much more to you than to beginners. The road to a small company is most likely closed - there you need a lot of fresh young blood for little money. Go big outsourcing like Accenture, EPAM, DataArt, etc. in which, according to politicians, discrimination is prohibited for about everything that is not nailed to the floor. They only evaluate skills.

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Puma Thailand, 2019-12-26
@opium

There are much more
jobs than workers

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Sergey Shat, 2019-12-26
@sergeyshat

You doubt not about age, but about whether it is yours, whether it is interesting to me, whether I want to do it for the next twenty years.
Look for real interest, then you won’t look for age, if it’s important for the soul, what does age have to do with it, souls don’t have numbers in their passports .....
Try design, copyright, SMM, after all, the soul lies to something .... but not green paper

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xDanbo, 2019-12-26
@xDanbo

I got a job as a junior at 33, before that I worked as a layout designer for 4 years on freelance. In fact, it was my experience around the frontend with basic knowledge in js.
In general, get the fad about age out of your head.

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Robur, 2019-12-27
@Robur

Choosing between a 20-year-old June and a 35-year-old June of the same knowledge, I will choose the second one - because he is more likely to have already learned how to work.
Unless, of course, he sat on the neck of his parents until 35.
But if, of course, at 34 you already feel like an old man and choose between it and a security guard, then with such an attitude you won’t get through normal social security even with a fake passport.

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BooooBka, 2019-12-26
@BooooBka

Of course, the development world is open to everyone.
The main thing in my opinion is the desire to learn and good soft skills.
Good luck!

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kk95, 2019-12-27
@kk95

Almost everyone on the web is under 30, fact. And it's not exactly comfortable. Coming to bow to a 20-year-old leader at 35 will be unpleasant. And yes, of course, it’s better for any team to take a 20-year-old petya who has 3 one-pages on github than a 35-year-old Misha who has exactly the same. Petya will have something to talk about, you can spit in Petya's face, he won't give a young man back in the face, and it's easier to throw him at the money. and say be patient for another 5 months for a salary of 15K, but we have free coffee, it’s easier for him than for someone who has three children at home. And most importantly - Petya's brain has not been sharpened for years for something else, it is a clean slate.
This is statistical. Maybe you'll get lucky and get where you need to be. There are exceptions. But in general, even according to those who work, there is a difference. And not in favor of 35+ year olds. It's on the web.
But on some C ++, the percentage of progers 40+ is quite large. This is a different world. Therefore, at 35, progers wouldn’t be, but specifically the web is not the best place.

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