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beginer1232016-12-22 12:25:02
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beginer123, 2016-12-22 12:25:02

Is it normal to ask about the former salary?

Hello, I was asked during the interview how much I received.
I decided not to answer. By the reaction, I realized that I didn’t like it very much.
I was afraid in vain or is this an absolutely normal and logical question?
All the same, it seemed to me that this is absolutely not mandatory information for the employer.
Or am I mistaken?
How to answer in this case?

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Anna Buyanova, 2016-12-22
@LightAlloy

I think the question is asked in order to understand how much you pay.
But I think that you should ask directly "What salary do you want?", And the question "What was your salary?" - incorrect.

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Dmitry Dart, 2016-12-22
@gobananas

We constantly ask such questions and everyone answers, I don’t remember that someone would not answer. Then the opportunity immediately opens up to talk about the reasons for changing jobs:
1. Received less wants more - everything is clear, let's just discuss how much more you would like to receive?
2. I got the same amount as indicated in the vacancy at this job - the reason for changing jobs is not about money, we also discuss what we didn’t like (in our mind we figure out how to make a person like everything)
3. I got more goes for less - and this happens. Life circumstances (work is needed urgently), a person changes the scope of activity.
If a person hadn’t told me income from a previous place of work, well, he didn’t say, okay, but for myself I would put a tick that a closed, cautious person, we don’t like them)))
In the vacancy, we have a real fork of the RFP, and from how many people received in the previous place, neither this fork nor the conditions will change. A girl once came for an interview at 25-30, said at her previous place of work she received 200, she arrived in a jeep))
People come to us for an interview and freely say that I now have a third-party income of 35, for example, and I plan to work for you 28, i.e. we clearly understand that on the side a person will earn more than ours, but we like him, we still take him.

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Sanes, 2016-12-22
@Sanes

My ex. no one should be interested. Figure out how to tactfully excuse yourself. Sort of like a non-disclosure agreement.

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Sergey, 2016-12-22
@begemot_sun

Do not speak. It doesn't concern them at all.
Reasons for leaving will be needed - just tell them, and they should not be interested in specific numbers and you should not say, you are not in confession.
If you ticked the box, then apparently you do not need them - look further.
Any consent to work is an agreement between two subjects. If you think that some information should not concern them, then it should not concern them.

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sim3x, 2016-12-22
@sim3x

On post, it's ok.
Answer - it is worth it only after you have signed a document indicating your future salary at this place. Otherwise, bargaining for salary simply will not work.
If the interlocutor shows a sour face, ask him (if they have such transparency in salary) how much he gets now and how much other people in the office get in the
world - it's not normal. Because everybody lies and trade secrets
APD: may ask about the expected salary. But this is worth discussing after the technical interviews have passed and they have not failed.

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Erelecano Oioraen, 2016-12-22
@Erelecano

> Is it normal to ask about the former salary?
As normal as asking who you prefer to have sex with and in what positions. That is, no way.
I personally just got up and walked out of several interviews after such a question, because I believe that my salary is in the previous place, as well as the sex of my sexual partners or the frequency of my bowel movements is not relevant to a potential employer.

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Alexey Nikolaev, 2016-12-22
@Heian

The most logical thing is to lie. See how much the salary gap is there and answer somewhere in the middle of it, so that it is logical that your new salary (which you are applying for) is higher than the one that was. Otherwise, why did the person leave? Maybe he is conflicted, or breaks deadlines? They will start digging, do you need it?
An interview is not an interrogation, but a subtle psychological game between the employer and you. You need to be able to control yourself and play to hide what you want to hide and win this game.
It’s worth answering honestly just the same when your salary really was a little less than the one you are applying for. Let's say you claim 100, but it was 80.
I have a sincere dislike for employers with such questions - this is a clear attempt to hire a person on the basis of the previous salary, and not on the basis of whether or not they are suitable for skills.

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Puma Thailand, 2016-12-22
@opium

answer honestly

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Maxim Smirnov, 2016-12-29
@MaxiStyle

On this issue, listen to the advice of employers only :)
The last salary for the employer is very important, everything was clearly stated in the first comment.
I will only add that in one very well-known HR company they set a limit - the new salary should be no more than 30% than the previous one. I was already so burned, the candidate "embellished", then he brought 2NDFL and the personnel taxied him, as a result, a month of registration was down the drain.
For top vacancies (> 200k), we immediately ask for 2NDFL at the stage of discussing a new RFP.
Overpaying a new employee is dangerous for the employee himself. Since in a new position there is a big risk of immediately relaxing (and don’t tell me what kind of big salary works better). Organic growth is much better for everyone.
The only exception is moving from the province. Here the past RFP does not play a fundamental role.

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WQP, 2016-12-22
@WQP

If this is a large company, then you can answer, but if it’s a small office, then you shouldn’t

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mipan, 2016-12-22
@mipan

Speak a little less than you want to receive from them.

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alk, 2016-12-22
@Alexey_Kutepov

Quite a common question, there is nothing like that here and it is asked quite often.

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Max, 2016-12-22
@MaxDukov

What's so secret about it? When (if) you get a job, they will all ask you for 2 personal income tax, to calculate sick people.
asking about previous income is normal practice. Naturally, it is not necessary to answer - but prepare for a negative reaction to this if you cannot clearly explain why you do not want to tell. By the way, if you have a good excuse for such a case - share it?
Here the situation is exactly like with a checkmark in the questionnaire about checking the information provided. Formally, you can not put. But then they won't hire you either.
If you are afraid that the difference between the old and new salary may seem too big to the employer, think over the arguments in advance. The argument that you have grown professionally since the establishment of the salary at the same place, the salary at the previous place of work was significantly lower than the market - quite an argument
Summing up:
- can they ask such a question at an interview? They can, the practice is relatively common (regardless of the size and level of the firm). Such a question does not directly violate any laws, even 152-FZ is not particularly sewn here. Especially if the purpose of the question is not to get information, but to remove the reaction.
- Is it necessary / how to answer this question?Well, something to answer is still worth it. Playing partisans during interrogation by the Gestapo is not the best strategy - do not forget, HR evaluates you first of all in terms of personality characteristics. And for this, it’s very good to prepare for an interview in advance (in general, preparing for an interview is a good practice). Want - speak. If you don't want to, think over an explanation in advance (for example, a non-disclosure obligation in the same place). Here's what you definitely shouldn't do - it's lying. If you have reached 80lvl in a pro, you can theoretically purse your lips and get offended, but a clear answer like "I don't think this question is correct and has nothing to do with my experience" will surely be perceived better.
Why are they asking? differently. someone to film a reaction to an uncomfortable question. someone - to determine the level of the new salary.

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Vladimir Yakovlev, 2016-12-22
@simplyv

If you received little, they will not pay much more.
That's why they're interested.
But if I were you, I would answer as evasively as possible, saying in different ways, it's hard to say.
After all, I appreciate you by the way you answer questions, especially uncomfortable ones. And the question itself is normal. By the way, you should also ask them how much they want to pay you, otherwise they will think that you are embarrassed and will try to pay the minimum. You should get ready, say that the ad says more ...

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lukoie, 2016-12-23
@lukoie

I know one galley where a person works at the middle level, but receives 2 times less than a junior. And all because when asked how much he received and how much he wants to receive, he said the figure that he is now being paid.
In general, I agree - the salary question is asked solely to look at your reaction, how you feel about money, to evaluate you. I sometimes ask about games, about TV shows, about religion - this has nothing to do with the essence of the issue, just to see how a person behaves, at what level of social development he is, how he reacts in dialogue to provocative questions.
And I'll tell you how it is - you behaved like a game. Do not be surprised that the attitude towards you as a result will be like a game. A person with such a reaction will personally fall into my little black book. Even if at the very beginning he starts to blunt, then it is better to postpone it a little further in the list.

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maxaus, 2016-12-24
@maxaus

Answer a figure that slightly exceeds your expectations - no one will check your current salary, but you yourself will not lose, because. you are apparently asked this 90% of the time to offer a salary slightly above the stated figure (if you qualify).
PS: And what's the point of thinking at all about whether this is normal or not, and asking questions to other people)) Well, any unfamiliar person can ask this question due to their underdeveloped upbringing - probably, you will answer exactly as much as it is more convenient for you, so that he knows) well, or laugh it off)

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x32net, 2016-12-27
@x32net

You will most likely provide income statements for 2 years, everything is detailed in them. The concept of "normal" as such does not exist.

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dhat, 2016-12-22
@dhat

That it was difficult to say that he received% billion%? It's better to lie in your favor (ESPECIALLY ON SUCH INCORRECT QUESTION) than to avoid answering.

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xmoonlight, 2016-12-22
@xmoonlight

Is it normal to ask about the former salary?
100% - No.
Simply because you (the contracting parties) are on equal terms and rights.
You are enabling the company to work.
The company - for this undertakes to pay you money.
You come to the store and say: "Where and for what amount did you take this before you started reselling? Who is your supplier? Give me contacts."
It is logical that this is not quite adequate behavior within the framework of current realities)

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CityCat4, 2016-12-23
@CityCat4

In normal offices, this question will not be asked. Because they are afraid to run into a professional litigator who goes to interviews with a voice recorder in his pocket and this alone will be enough for him to drag him to court - and the courts here (in Russia) are tough on the side of the workers.
Why? And because you are not obliged to disclose your personal data. Above, I really liked two answers about positions in sex and about the salary of the questioner.
True, you need to understand that if you are not a super-duper specialist who was asked to work, you will not be able to work in this office - personnel immediately (as you can see in the very first answer - I also liked it - an honest answer from an honest Soviet employer who has not yet encountered with people who make money on courts with people like him :) ) they will put the label "conflict, non-contact".
What do I usually answer when asked? I answer that I signed a paper on non-disclosure of trade secrets and I can’t say. But now I rummaged through my memory - when I was asked the last time .... uh ... in the 90s - yes, they asked ... but not anymore ...
UPD: This question constantly pops up on forums about work. And every time everyone eventually comes to the same thing - if you apply for the position of a junior cashier, for which there is a pack of 50 resumes in the staff, then the staff can ask about this and more intimate, and select by size ... waist - and here, if you want to get a job, you will have to answer, and if you are a specialist, of which there are a dozen in the city, then you yourself can ask the personnel officer what she is doing tonight :)
Capitalism ...
This is what Uncle Mayakovsky wrote about in 1925 year in verseDecent Citizen

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younghacker, 2016-12-23
@younghacker

No, it's not normal. Although the norm is a relative question.
In the Czech Republic, for example, blowing your nose loudly in public is the norm. It's taboo in Japan.
In response to such a tactless question, you can safely embellish the situation. I can’t say my salary openly, but I’m ready to change jobs for XXX clean ones. On the one hand, you are not rude - you answer the question, on the other hand, you raise your price. Throw 50-100% on your salary and speak boldly confidently and openly looking into the eyes of the interlocutor.
And the greatest calmness and confidence of communication at the interview is given by good knowledge and practice in the subject area.
If you made an impression, then even if you have requested an exorbitant amount now - your resume will most likely remain in the frames and - they may remember you. :)
Yes, and personnel officers also change jobs. And they are trying to maintain and grow their customer base.

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dom1n1k, 2016-12-23
@dom1n1k

Asking is fine.
Not responding is fine too.
Being offended by not answering is not normal.

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Nikita, 2016-12-23
@jkotkot

Since your goal is not just to sell for more, but as expensive as possible, it depends on the salary range. If you received at the lower limit, then it makes sense to evade or, so to speak, but be sure to express your wishes for the salary, focusing on this. In any case, it is important to express your wishes in such a way that it does not seem like a secondary thing.
If closer to the top, then it makes more sense to say, since this is the bottom edge.
Increasing the current salary is also an option.

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alex maslakoff, 2016-12-23
@teke_teke

I don't think you need to answer. or name a higher number. why do they need it? want to save on you, not otherwise.

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freeman0204, 2016-12-24
@freeman0204

For the first time I hear the phrase former salary) When did you divorce her?)

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Andrey Pletenev, 2016-12-31
@Andrey_Pletenev

Imagine yourself in the place of the employer. You are standing in a store or in the market. In front of you is a seller who praises you for his goods. He shows his best side and seeks to sell it for the highest possible price. At the same time, the price tag draws right in front of you. Now ask yourself 2 questions:
1) Do you consider it normal to ask him at what price others bought this product from him (despite the fact that he agreed to sell it at this price)?
2) Do you consider his reaction to such a question to be normal - resentment, indignation, silence, reproaches addressed to you. What conclusions will you draw?

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