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bushart2015-03-02 20:05:57
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bushart, 2015-03-02 20:05:57

Is it correct to take money for the study of technology, with hourly pay?

I recently started working on oOdesk and immediately a question arose. What if you need to learn some indirect technology or tool to work? And specifically, is it worth turning on the timer and expecting the customer to pay for this time, or is it necessary to study everything first and only then turn on the timer? I understand that if I took the PHP\Laravel project, then it is assumed that I already know PHP. But what if, for example, the task is to integrate the project's API into zapier.com, is it worth taking money for the time spent on learning the zapier.com Dev platform?
What exactly do you think about this?

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Nikita, 2015-03-12
@bushart

If initially you just needed a "php programmer", and then in the process of working you needed to learn a new api, then it is absolutely correct, but within reasonable limits. You don't need to show the customer that you are a slowpoke)) If you needed a "php programmer with knowledge of the api of the LALALA platform" and you honestly said that you are a php programmer, but you don't know the platform, then how can you agree. If you promised to learn for free, then teach for free, if you didn’t write anything, then it’s absolutely correct to learn it at someone else’s expense. If you didn’t promise anything, then you can score. This usually depends on the size of the project. If the project is for a day and you study technology for another day, then this is somehow not very good.
For example, I, who was hired as a java + bootstrap programmer, needed to study jasper reports and paypal api in the process of work, and I honestly spent a couple of days on it (for a project of 4 months, this is quite ok). In the notes about the work, I wrote that I was studying it. Nobody said a bad word.
On the other hand, there are cases when you become incredibly dull and spend an order of magnitude more time on a watch thing. Then you can make a discount by canceling a few hours, for example, or stop the timer so that it does not press.

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Puma Thailand, 2015-03-03
@opium

It is most correct to negotiate an hourly quota with the customer and it is logical to immediately lay in it the study of related things.
It is logical that if the work was called Laravel integration with locking, then the customer assumes that you know everything.
It's just that the customer always assumes some kind of spending in dollar hours, it is logical to ask him about them before, so that the customer is not surprised by the billing.

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Yuri, 2015-03-02
@riky

I think this should be discussed with the customer.
that is, if the technology is popular - there are many performers - naturally it is easier for him to find a person who has already worked with it.
if little known, then he has a choice either to pay N per hour to a person who will still study and the time is included, or to pay 2 * N (roughly) to a person who will immediately do it.

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bit_rainbow, 2015-03-02
@bit_rainbow

No, not correct. If I were a contractor, I would not take such a freelancer.

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