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Dmitry Sergeev2011-04-04 13:12:19
Domain name market
Dmitry Sergeev, 2011-04-04 13:12:19

How to protect yourself from fraud when buying a domain from a private person?

Domain in the .ru zone, NOT DELEGATED

The domain is not "cool", long, but it coincided with the name of the services. It was registered 9 years ago, and the owner is asking 5,000 rubles for it . But since he spent approximately 450x9 + 450 = 4500 on this domain, this sale price confused me a little. Maybe there is some guarantor in this case?

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edogs, 2011-04-04
@edogs

ru domains to pass this quest. small but quest. It is necessary to send letters for re-registration, conclude contracts, all according to passport data. It if to renew the domain normally buying/selling.
If the seller just wants to give you a "login and password" from the control panel, then this is a 100% scam.
Many registrars have an internal selling system. For example, on the same nic.ru. Money and re-registration goes inside the system, no problems with guarantees.
See if your domain registrar has a "directed sale" or similar service - use it. If not, you can first transfer to the registrar where it is.
If you translate lazily at first, then proceed in the general manner, as in any transaction with the purchase of anything - a meeting, payment for a good webmoney personal certificate, and so on.

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Denis Ilinykh, 2011-04-04
@greyhard

you need to check a lot of things
that were on it before you.
whether Yandex banned him.
whether the GS was hosted on it.
Does it have any filters on it?
like me he has a story.
you can see something, but you won’t be able to see something (for example, the presence of filters),
otherwise buy it and you will be perplexed why Yandex does not index you, but oh, how difficult it is to get out from under the ban and filters
. in terms of SEO… a very bargain price for a 9 year old domain. IMHO.

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pratamishus, 2011-04-04
@pratamishus

I always use the so-called independent 3rd-party. Of all the ones I used - escrow.com. Description of the service here - www.escrow.com/solutions/domain_name/index.asp
Rates here - www.escrow.com//support/calculator.asp
In your case, they will charge about 25-30 dollars for the entire operation. The seller is unlikely to agree to pay, so you will have to cover these costs, but then no one can cheat on you :)
ps. They only accept Visa, Master Card and Paypal.

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pel0tkin, 2011-04-04
@pel0tkin

Many people act as intermediaries on the heart for 10-15 percent of the amount.
And 5,000 rubles for a 9-year-old domain is generally nonsense! They will more than pay off when promoted.

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jabbarow, 2011-04-04
@jabbarow

What are you going to pay for?

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Puma Thailand, 2011-04-04
@opium

Make a payment with webmoney or poisons using the protection code.

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Sergey, 2011-04-04
@bondbig

But since he spent approximately 450x9 + 450 = 4500 on this domain
He could spend 99*9=891 rubles. Profit in the form of 4109r. obvious.

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Webtun, 2011-04-04
@Webtun

It is impossible to be 100% safe from fraud when buying a domain from a private person.
But you can play it safe and buy through a guarantor. As a rule, purchases through guarantors are made because of large amounts, your amount is relatively small.
It is desirable that the seller has a personal passport, and pay attention to his BL.
The best scheme (for the buyer) is “chairs today, money tomorrow”.

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ChemAli, 2011-04-05
@ChemAli

Conclude a civil transfer agreement and write down the transfer procedure in it in accordance with the registrar(s) procedures. That is, what actions should be taken by the transmitting and receiving side. With 5000 taxes, it’s not worth paying.

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el777, 2011-04-06
@el777

nic.ru has a directed domain transfer service from one person to another. I think you can use them as a third party. Pay a small commission.

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Patron, 2011-04-06
@Patron

we often sell domains.
We basically do not conclude contracts with individuals, we transfer domains only after payment has been received (webmoney transfer and protection code message, for example).
with legal entities, most often also without a contract, payment by invoice. it happens with the contract, if the legal entity wants (we send them scans with a signature and a seal). but also the transfer of the domain only after payment.
so don't be surprised if you don't want to transfer the domain before payment.
if the domain is at the rucenter, then the directed transfer is an option to _guarantee_ the transfer of the domain. but this is a hemorrhoid, especially if the seller is an individual and not in Moscow (you have to go to a notary, pay him for certification of documents, send them by Russian post to Moscow, etc.). we do this in exceptional cases and only for amounts per domain from 25 tr.
if you're really worried about being scammed, buy through a guarantor.
if your seller is a squatter / domainer with hundreds of domains, then the chance that he will deceive you because of your 5 thousand is about zero.

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