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WhisperingOak2019-05-05 22:10:41
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WhisperingOak, 2019-05-05 22:10:41

How to hint to a foreign employer that you would like to get help with relocation?

There are many stories on Habré about migration to other countries, and in many cases the employer helps the future employee in paperwork and materially. How can I gently hint to a foreign employer (in a resume or cover letter) that I do not have a visa (citizenship, blue card, etc.) and I expect to receive assistance in obtaining them? I don't want to look like my only goal is to move at his expense, but I also don't want to mislead him.

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Ronald McDonald, 2019-05-05
@Zoominger

There are a lot of stories about migration to other countries on Habré

Another lover of sweet fairy tales.
No way. If he doesn’t offer, then he won’t offer, this is a very big exception for very serious specialists, and you, if you believe Habr, obviously cannot be like that. No offense.
This is exactly how you will look.

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Puma Thailand, 2019-05-06
@opium

It’s stupid to ask if he is ready to take a local staff why not, the visa will still be from him and for some time you will be obliged to work with him

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dollar, 2019-05-05
@dollar

What kind of help are we talking about? What does moving at his expense mean ? Does the employer have to pay for you or what? If so, then, obviously, you need to offer him something in return, either give him money or your time, well, then, as you agree.
If you need the employer to help with documents. For example, to issue a certificate that you will work for him or are already working. And then you change this certificate for a visa. In this case, I do not see a problem, because the employer does not lose anything. So you can directly ask him about it.
In any case, moving is, first of all, your business.. And you are responsible for it. The employer, of course, in theory can fuss for you, provide you with an apartment, fix your life, but wouldn’t it be easier to just get money? That is, if the employer takes care of you, then you are very beneficial to him (and for some reason he does not want to pay more, which, as it were, hints at posing another question, but this is another topic).
In general, the main thing is to be honest (with everyone), then you won’t have to blush in the future. Otherwise, as they say, demand is not a sin.

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nrgian, 2019-05-05
@nrgian

Just ask.
Where are you going to get away from him?
Some types of visas / work permits allow you to work only for him
https://habr.com/ru/post/451230/

The mere fact that you have become an experienced specialist does not guarantee that you will be able to come to the US to work. This is understandable, which is why many also take the path of (relatively) less resistance and look for an employer who can sponsor a visa and relocation. It is important to say that if this plan can be implemented, then everything will be quite convenient for the relocating employee - after all, the company pays for everything and takes care of the paperwork, but this approach also has its significant disadvantages.
Firstly, the preparation of paperwork, the cost of lawyers and the payment of state fees pour out for the employer in an amount exceeding $10,000 per employee. At the same time, in the case of an ordinary American H1B work visa, this does not mean at all that he will be able to quickly begin to benefit.
The problem is that work visas are issued several times less per year than applications are received for them. For example, for 2019, 65,000 H1B visas were allocated, and about 200,000 applications were received. It turns out that more than 130 thousand people found an employer who agreed to pay them a salary and become a sponsor for the move, but they were not given a visa because they were not chosen in the lottery.
It makes sense to go a little longer and apply for a work visa to the United States on your own. For example, articles on obtaining an O-1 visa were published on Habré. You can get it as an experienced specialist in your field, while there are no quotas and lotteries in this case, you can come and start working right away. Compare yourself to competitors for jobs who sit abroad and wait for a sponsor, and then have to go through a lottery - their chances will clearly be less.

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Dimonchik, 2019-05-05
@dimonchik2013

this is not discussed at the first interview
+ the employer is sufficiently protected - what H1B, what Blucard are tied to the employer

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Pavel, 2019-05-06
@HEKOT

This is not a question of finance, but simply the availability of such an option (allocated budget) in the company. We have this in our company, but only for international moves. I moved from another state (we are talking about Australia), they told me that they could not help with the move, but they could with housing for the first time. Ask about "relocation support/assistance".
As mentioned above, of course, not at the first interview.

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Vitaly, 2019-05-06
@vt4a2h

Everything is usually quite simple here: a foreign employer either provides relocation or not. If it provides, then it is written about it (if it is ambiguous, then you can clarify). If it does, then you will be told what the relocation package includes. Usually this is the same assistance that you described + a set of benefits that depend on the company. Spending an amount equivalent to your two or three monthly salaries (well, or more) usually costs the employer nothing. People are the most important resource.
Moving is more than realistic. In Europe and the US, programmers, to put it mildly, are not enough. By a programmer, I mean a person who really knows how to develop software (real, not formal experience of at least three to five years), speaks English at an above-average level and has the necessary social skills. This category rarely includes people who have completed courses like "PHP in six days" and / or do not have fundamental knowledge.
Of course, you can move without all this, but your conditions will be very bad and you will be paid very little.
There are options when the employer offers relocation after remote work (direct, or through an outsourcing / outstaffing company). This is a rather rare option, but it is possible if you are a really good specialist.
I once worked for an outsourcing company on a foreign project. After a couple of years of work, the client offered me a move and work in his company directly, and even agreed with an outsourcing company (because there are usually special agreements so as not to hunt employees). I really refused then, because. we didn't agree on salary. I heard several more similar stories, incl. and this option is possible.
There are international companies with overseas offices that can also offer you relocation. Those. worked in Russia, and then moved. But it really depends on the company and the conditions.

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Laurelaurel, 2019-07-12
@Laurelaurel

Before moving to Berlin, I clarified all the questions with the employer, there is nothing wrong with that, I think. In the end, she moved on her own. I turned to the TC "1st Transport" (Nizhny Novgorod) , they transported everything, they also helped with the documents at customs. The price is adequate.

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Roman, 2017-04-11
@Bearax

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