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Ben_r0072019-05-27 09:32:55
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Ben_r007, 2019-05-27 09:32:55

How to find remote work for Junior BackEnd developer in Russia or Ukraine?

Hello.
Finished school. Now I would like to develop in programming, to gain practical experience.
Chose between PHP and Python. And although Python is more beneficial for me, I decided to learn PHP, as it is more popular and easier to find a job.
Interested in remote work.
Besides, purely Backend interests. I know that everyone needs Fullstack, but I have vision problems, so FrontEnd does not interest me.
My question is:
Where can I look for a job?
Interested in real jobs, not freelancing.
What besides hh.ru?
I live in Ukraine, but I am looking for work not only in Ukraine, but also in Russia. Can anyone suggest, among other things, resources for finding a job in Ukraine? There are suggestions that not all Ukrainian employers use hh.ru.
Thanks in advance!

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Alexey, 2019-05-27
@RusTech

Remote juns not needed

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ipokos, 2019-05-27
@ipokos

dou and djinni
June may be remote, but the requirements are many times greater than for a junior in the office.
You need to understand what the employer sees.
- Graduated from school
- I would like to develop in programming
- PHP, as it is more popular and easier to find a job.

those. no work experience at all. No knowledge of technology. Need training.
= If you work well, then the profit will not begin to bring soon, but until that time only costs.
There are basically several types of offices.
- do everything and everything. (usually you need a full stack, even if there is something else in the vacancy) they don’t train, but at the expense of the minimum salary they are ready to wait until you learn something yourself. Remote removal is possible. does not have an office.
- do one thing. Outsourcing, and for example they work only with some kind of CMS or framework.
there may be a pure back, but at least minimal knowledge of it is needed. Remote work is possible when there is an understanding that a person has enough experience.
- product. They do it for a long time and well, they don’t take juniors remotely.
Alternatively, learn laravel, for example, do something on it (blog, store). Put it on git.
This will already give an understanding that you are developing and doing something.

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O. J, 2019-05-27
@OrlovEvgeny

- Graduated from school
- wrote - Eichars are already spamming furiously in telegrams and mail. - torn off with hands to a remote galley for 300k / ns. - I'm lying on a hammock with a macbook on my belly, I'm pressing the buttons. - profit!1. Seriously, do pet projects, commit open source. network, in one word fill your hand. June php / python / ror developed without fullstack in 2019 is not needed by anyone. And even more, no one needs a June with zero experience. Think for yourself - when you come to the hospital, you would like something to be treated not by an experienced doctor, but by a newly minted 11a graduate who just yesterday looked on youtube how an injection is made in the buttock. <?php echo '<p>Привет, мир!</p>'; ?>

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index0h, 2019-05-28
@index0h

Where can you look for a job?

work.ua
it.rabota.ua
True, the market is overheated by newcomers, the only thing I can recommend is to look for a job "for food", or volunteering in general.

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Vladislav Lyskov, 2019-05-27
@Vlatqa

still have my circle

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Sanes, 2019-05-27
@Sanes

Do something socially useful first. Nobody needs you without experience.

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Ivan Yakushenko, 2019-05-27
@kshnkvn

On freelance, it is quite possible to enter into permanent cooperation in the first place and gain at least some, albeit extremely mediocre, experience, secondly.
Yes, and remotely, more often than not fullstack, but devops is needed, because. no one will deploy your code for you, and the situations and orders are completely different - one "well, I can create a table in mysql" is definitely not enough here.
And besides, you can always stumble upon some interesting project, which you will then implement and launch for yourself.

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Sergei Iamskoi, 2019-05-27
@syamskoy

Try to get a job for free - you will work for experience and knowledge, and when they begin to appear, you will already work for money. Now, without knowing anything remotely, you definitely do not need anyone.

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CityCat4, 2019-05-27
@CityCat4

I don’t know how to Ukraine, but in Russia, only dubious offices take remote juns for sure, which will easily turn out to be a scammer.
For one very simple reason - nakua? A person is absolutely zero, without knowledge, it will take a long, long training before you can get something from him (read before he earns something for you) - remotely? Without control?
These are only taken to the office.

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