How to find a job as a junior?

alexvagner2015-06-02 20:29:54

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alexvagner, 2015-06-02 20:29:54

Good afternoon! I'm a math student, I've been looking for a job for 3 months without success. From languages I know C ++, Java, C #, Python, I am well versed in Unix, databases. I am looking for a job mainly in Java. No development experience.
There are very few vacancies without experience requirements (I'm looking for hh), and even those are denied.
Is the labor market really bad right now, or am I doing something wrong? I will be glad to your advice.

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Sergey, 2015-06-02
@edinorog

but no advice. no stupid and all. you walk with your feet .. you speak with your voice and crush your smile. rather than wasting time on a talking shop on a resource for help in jambs.

Viktor Vsk, 2015-06-02
@viktorvsk

From languages I know C ++, Java, C #, Python, I am well versed in Unix, databases.

To begin with, clarify for yourself that this is not true. Pluses "knows" Stroustrup. And you are probably partially familiar with the syntax. And Torvalds is "not bad" oriented in nixes.
Secondly, the problem is that those who work with the code today cannot but have work experience. Books, forums, free online courses, free virtual servers, open source software, co-development...
All you need to do is set a goal and go for it. What does it mean that you are looking for a job mainly in Java? That is, do you still have to devote the next couple of months to static typing or dynamic? It doesn't matter if you have to make a gui for android or describe business processes on the server? Is it the same as working in a bank on a project of hundreds of man years in a team where the list of participants is larger than your family tree or in a startup in a garage? Apparently, employers do not care for the same reason.

Thomas Storm, 2015-06-02
@v_sadist

Some in the thread are all evil and rude.
"I'm a math student, I've been looking for a job for 3 months without success." Let's start
with your resume:
3 months is not that long, I was looking for my first job for almost a year in my third year
:)
Decided that Java? Write what exactly you know in the language, for the rest write basic knowledge / understanding in or something similar
"I'm pretty good at Unix." The Unix
operating system no longer exists. What OS are you familiar with? Linux only? Describe distributions, and level of ownership (architecture, coreutils, fine-tuning, etc.)
"databases"
What? Same as with *nix
"
If you want to focus strictly on Java, then dig and develop in this direction. Knowledge of application servers and frameworks will be a plus for you. If you want to try your luck in other languages, write a separate resume for each language (I had three resumes - for a system engineer, a linux admin and a dbshnik)
"No development experience."
That's not fatal. People with experience come from somewhere :) look for internships and "zero" positions. There will be little money, but you will quickly gain experience.
"There are very few vacancies without experience requirements (I'm looking for hh), and even those are denied."
Without a summary, it is very hard to say what could be wrong. Refuse to respond? What offices? What positions. Some companies hold shell positions for market analysis (especially large ones). At the social? At what stage. Try to "read" the interviewer to see what you might have said or done wrong.
"Now the labor market is really bad or am I doing something wrong? I would be glad to hear your advice."
Not everything is glorious in the Danish kingdom, but you will succeed. Success is inevitable.

Perzh, 2015-06-02
@Perzh

Judging by my experience, it is really hard for a student to find a job (in Kazan at least). I was looking for a job for six months before I found the first employer, and even then it was that Sharazhkin office (turnkey php sites without official employment). A year later, I found a job in a large company as a C++ developer. At the same time, I had no work experience, only university tasks. From this we can conclude: look and do not give up, attend as many interviews as possible, ask through friends and acquaintances, because. not everything is on hh (some by the way, through familiar teachers at the university, smart students are gaining, also an option). You will find it sooner or later.

Denis Ineshin, 2015-06-02
@IonDen

Go freelance already, the best career start for you. Gain experience and build a portfolio.

kp069, 2015-06-02
@kp069

I have never seen junior vacancies at all. Well, maybe 2-3.
Write down some educational project in java, figure out what else you need besides java, learn it, and then write to everyone in a row, show your code.
Something like this.

Arseniy Ilyashov, 2015-06-09
@Tavion

Do 2-3 useful projects. Well, which people could use, let them be simple, but the main thing is that they solve certain problems - so you will have something to show at the interview and, accordingly, show your skill level.
Also, never refuse test tasks, and if it was not expected, then ask. You can even say directly that they say "I understand that here I am without work experience, but with a certain level of knowledge and I want to confirm this."
Also, don't spray. Do not write in the resume, that's what you just wrote in the question. Write I know Java, it is desirable to specify the level. It’s better to make 4 different resumes (of course, leave only one open, the rest only to those to whom you sent a response to the vacancy, otherwise it may be inconvenient) in each of which a key skill will be highlighted. Everyone knows very well that there are no specialists at your age who know four languages well and are well versed in niks. Or maybe it doesn't happen at all.

NETChaser, 2015-06-02
@NETChaser

I am a student

Considering what projects are done in Java. So. You pee a little and leave to study. And then they accompany your code. Looking for those who will work longer than six months.

iAzzy, 2015-06-04
@iAzzy

Hit hh. Especially on the button "respond to the vacancy". I was looking for a job on it for more than six months, all to no avail, more than half of the responses are not visible, I was invited for an interview 1-2 times, and those with a very low salary, and they refused.
It is much more profitable to find a job, no matter where: hh, or any other site, or call the company yourself. Recognize phones / mail and communicate directly bypassing these sites. As soon as I started doing this - after two weeks, I myself chose to go to company "A" or company "B".
And what Thomas Storm wrote , take note of the same.

hudozhnin, 2015-06-11
@hudozhnin

It is strange that there is no question or advice about Yandex in the comments, did you send your resume there? There is almost always a job for juniors .

Puma Thailand, 2015-06-04
@opium

Go to xx moscow and see a bunch of vacancies.

@codingal, 2015-06-05
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"Knowledge" at the level of laboratories at the institute or tutorials is not exactly what employers are looking for. First of all, they will ask about commercial experience. In Java, the entry threshold is much higher, because, as a rule, an enterprise, it is better to choose a python or mobile development, make a couple of pet projects and go with them.