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SV999Z2017-07-06 12:04:16
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SV999Z, 2017-07-06 12:04:16

How to communicate with HR with a lifelong lack of interest and proactivity?

I am faced with the fact that for employers in particular and people in general, a certain mythical interest in activity is important, and what psychologists call proactivity, at the same time, from more than a quarter of a century of experience of existence, this seems to be at least nonsense, at most - a malicious attempt to use a person without material payment, in fact, use. From personal experience (school + university + postgraduate, average score 5.0, academic degree) - interest sharply worsens cognitive abilities and the quality of the result, and deliberately suffocating it and, if possible, turning off emotions in general at the study stage, for example, can significantly reduce deadlines and achieve, in fact, the consistency of both knowledge and thinking.
If there are people with a similar experience, they are interested in synonyms with which you replace these terms for yourself and ways of adapting to the world of "interested" homos during an interview / at work.

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cssman, 2017-07-06
@cssman

this is called softskills and socialization ability.
Man is a social being, he should be able to pretend.

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Raphael™, 2017-07-06
@maxminimus

I didn’t understand anything,
let’s say so - use cases, directly
use incomprehensible and foreign words more - and you will seem fashionable and smart
society is basically mentally ill - the main thing is to be able to pretend and be arrogant, show-off and fashionable, that is, to be in trend and mainstream, and you definitely need to to be politically correct
the values ​​of the modern Western world -
the cult of money and the merciless exploitation of the employee are false everywhere, and
the laziest and mediocre ones who can adapt and be proactive crawl out to the top
- this is usually Hades, depression, apathy, suffering, psychosis ..
very rarelythere are adequate people and companies that are talented and know how to work - you need to look for such people and work with them - then you will grow and it will be interesting

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Saboteur, 2017-07-06
@saboteur_kiev

The connection between the external manifestation of emotions and the motivation to do something is purely individual.
Some can write chic satirical plays and play clowns with a completely funeral look, some cannot read bearded jokes without a gygy.
Do not confuse free activities, proactivity, interest in the result, and motivation.
And yes, most of the HRs and managers live in a different world, which is no worse and no better, it’s just that the values ​​are different there and the view of solving problems changes accordingly. Understanding these values ​​is essential. Accept - individually.

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Igor, 2017-07-06
@imikh

from more than a quarter of a century of existence, this seems to be at least nonsense, at most - a vicious attempt to use a person without material payment, in fact, using

This conclusion is wrong.
Here's an example for you.
Not a proactive employee:
1. The manager gave him a task, the employee read it, started doing it.
2. Done, sits and waits further.
3. Time is running out.
4. The manager asks - how is it, is it ready? Employee - yes, it's ready.
Proactive employee:
1. The manager gave him a task. The employee read, thought. Offers - and let's do it better! This will be faster and more efficient. You can shorten the time. Okay, let's do it.
2. The employee did. Instead of waiting for what's next, he goes to the manager and says - everything is ready, let's do more work. (Plus, I can continue to do a useful thing here, right?)
So the first one will take off from work and in general, you will get tired of him, work to force him, control, remake his shit code for him.
Only throw tasks to the second, his work is arguing.
Attention to the question - who is more pleasant to work with? Who can be assigned a job? Who will create a more positive and achievement-oriented climate in the team?

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Maxim Kotenko, 2017-07-06
@mistik_max

There is no way without proactivity, you need to love your work, otherwise even if HR hires you, then without enthusiasm and inspiration, you won’t last long there)

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Voofi, 2017-07-08
@Voofi

Read manuals for eychar. It is so clearly spelled out on the points that they pay attention to. And if you want to work for someone, you have to comply with these points.

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