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Nerevar962022-01-06 16:18:33
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Nerevar96, 2022-01-06 16:18:33

How to become a backend developer without higher education?

Looking through the vacancies, I noticed that the most interesting ones (vacancies from banks with a six-figure salary, medical insurance, etc.) have a technical tower as a mandatory requirement. Is the path to normal companies closed without a tower?

I constantly read and hear that the tower is just a formality, the employer looks at experience and knowledge, education is not needed, it is a waste of time, self-education and practice are needed.

But I hear this mainly from those who are ALREADY well settled, and who ALREADY have that very technical tower (in the style of "I have been working as a developer for X years, no one has ever asked about the crust")
No matter how much it is needed, but do not take without it. Is it something like a survivor's error?

Is it possible that my ceiling is front work in a micro-studio with payment in the form of% for the project?
How to get into good companies (banks, large grocery, industry tops with a six-figure salary and a top social package) without a higher education?

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Puma Thailand, 2022-01-06
@opium

Just like without a higher education, you need to program

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Dmitry Roo, 2022-01-06
@xez

I once worked in a bank... I've been
working for a year, my second, my third.
Then, unexpectedly, a letter from the staff comes with a question: provide, they say, your diploma of education. And I have education - only three classes of the parochial school.
Well, in response, I write: I haven’t graduated from the university yet.
No one ever asked me about education again.

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Vasily Bannikov, 2022-01-06
@vabka

Looking through the vacancies, I noticed that the most interesting ones (vacancies from banks with a six-figure salary, medical insurance, etc.) have a technical tower as a mandatory requirement. Is the path to normal companies closed without a tower?

Literally recently, I was interviewed at a bank with a six-figure salary - they asked about education only at a 5-minute interview at the very beginning. Well, in general, from the very beginning of my career, the absence of a tower has never been an obstacle.
Is it possible that my ceiling is front work in a micro-studio with payment in the form of% for the project?
How to get into good companies (banks, large grocery, industry tops with a six-figure salary and a top social package) without a higher education?

If your knowledge is only enough to work in front of a micro-studio - yes, this will be your ceiling.

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paran0id, 2022-01-06
@paran0id

Uncles who have worked without a diploma for X years, lose sight of the fact that over the past X years the IT world has changed. And it’s not that teaching has become better, or the tasks have risen to the university level - no, it just took a filter to screen out those who were a taxi driver yesterday and today are a pogromist.
And, yes, he worked without a diploma, and without a military man, and around half of the same. But we have experience, and you do not.

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Sergey Gornostaev, 2022-01-06
@sergey-gornostaev

Received a diploma in the eighth year of a successful career. And he is non-core, I'm an economist. The requirement for VO in vacancies is just a tribute to traditions; in fact, they don’t ask him if the candidate is suitable in terms of knowledge.

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Nikolay Savelyev, 2022-01-07
@AgentSmith

Yes, a tower is a must for large companies. And it is right.
There is another point that in large companies there are tenders where, according to the rules, they need to report on employees who have diplomas with higher education. Pure formality, but for companies it is important. And among the two candidates, they will choose the one who has a diploma.
So you are less competitive in the market without a degree.

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Evgenii Borovoi, 2022-01-07
@EugeneOne77

Is it possible that my ceiling is front work in a micro-studio with payment in the form of% for the project?
First, what for the backend. react`sheep for 500 k in MSC are now receiving. And it will take longer to retrain.
Secondly, not only banks pay well. A company that has a fairly large and successful project sets quite a competitive salary. And this is not about Yandex \ mail, but much less.
For example - some kind of network marketing, game portals, and even medium-sized online stores. dns and other federal retailers. And here they are, if only the team leader is not a moron - the highest do not care. You won't find a person who knows JS\typescript + react\vue\angular well during the day.
So just sharpen your skills in one direction.
Here from the studio, having gained experience, at some point it is better to dump, yes. Too vapid and bland. There is usually no testing there, patterns are also not particularly needed.
Well, if you really want to be sure - English is our everything. There the market is generally endless.

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Alexander, 2022-01-14
@Aleksandr-JS-Developer

How to get into good companies?

Make a list of "tops".
Select adequate ones (tops often sin with human-squeezing work policies for employees).
Then find all the resources on which these companies post vacancies.
When you have a list of vacancies in your specialty, select those where the tower is optional and look at requests for skills. Teach / tighten / refresh knowledge and forward. Without knowledge, nothing.
Just think carefully. Understand what you really want. Of money? Job prestige? Interesting tasks? Are you ready to take on more responsibility? If not, you won't be able to earn more.
If you are unhappy with your current job, it might make sense to talk about it with your boss. The business will try to pay you as little as possible. No one will initiate an increase for no reason. And if you hint to them that you want to revise the salary by N per month, arguing this not in the spirit of "I want more money", then they may not want to look for a new employee and will raise it. Especially if your current salary is low. The introduction of a new employee is expensive and time consuming.
Also, you don’t just need to silently go to social services. Initiate a conversation with your superiors about the salary (if that's the case). If they do not want to raise - ok, say that you want to grow in terms of salary and start looking for a new job. Work is not slavery, but mutually beneficial cooperation between the company and you.

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