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Alex_ART2017-08-25 16:05:47
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Alex_ART, 2017-08-25 16:05:47

How are things going with the juniors?

Hi everyone, Toaster.
I have been studying web programming for a year and a half. That is, the words OOP, MVC and the framework no longer scare me, I wrote a blog in Kohan, wrote an online store in Yii2 (without payment functionality), I read a book about templates, I know how to use the git, for basic needs, in general, I already know something , then it remains only to dig deep and develop.
It's time to think about how to turn this hobby into a full-time job, and then I came across 2 statements.
Here are the versions:
1) All requirements in vacancies are overstated, somewhere you need to know some libraries, somewhere to have x ** knee-deep, sorry, and so on. That is, the ideal candidate is described in the vacancies, and not the minimum list of requirements. If you write out 10-15 galleys, and go in turn to each one, you won’t reach the middle and you will receive an offer, no matter what requirements they write in vacancies.
2) When a junior vacancy opens up, hundreds of resumes come every day, of which a small part is invited for an interview, and only a couple of people who fit all the requirements are hired.
This is all to the fact that I'm leaving to live in another city, there is a reserve of money for 2 months.
If the competition is really so great, then finding a job during this time is almost impossible. Because they respond to resumes for a long time, they can upload another test task ala 80 hours, and so on, so you first need to find a job as an intermediary, so that you have something to live for, and then go to interviews as a developer.
If the first statement is true, then a month is enough to find a job right away.
Tell me how things really are? Indeed, there are hundreds of people like me, and I need to develop further in order to qualify for the junior position?

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Egor Zhivagin, 2017-08-25
@Krasnodar_etc

Xs, with the experience of "half a year of unfortunate layout" I just started to throw my resume in general for all vacancies where the technology stack suited me at least a little. In my resume, in addition to my skills, I told how much I want to develop and work in a team.
In two weeks, I think I found it. They offered 25K on a trial period. It suited me. Well, I've been working for more than six months)
We were looking for a backend recently, there were no free ones for 3 months at all.
The demand is very high for people. Start writing and calling all employers - you will definitely find a job. Junes are loved. Another issue is payment, it may be low at first.

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amambaru, 2017-08-25
@amambaru

If you want, work.
If you don't want to, don't work, keep studying.
Work is more efficient for learning.
Important:
There should be more experienced colleagues in the office who will help you.
Otherwise, you do not need this office.

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Puma Thailand, 2017-08-26
@opium

practice has shown that those who are looking for a job find it immediately,
and those who are smeared do not find it,
you just need to choose whether you are in the first group or the second

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Saboteur, 2017-08-25
@saboteur_kiev

Send resumes, try to go to interviews, find out first-hand what the problem is.
What is the problem with first finding a job and then moving? If you are hired, there is no problem in agreeing on a release date not immediately in the morning, but in a couple of days or even weeks, during which you can actually move at least to a hotel, and there you can already find more comfortable housing. Moreover, it is HIGHLY recommended that you first find a job, and then understand in which area to look for housing so that you can walk to work.
In addition, there are quite a few unemployed juniors sitting on the toaster, and even 5-year-old answers that are not related to your city will not help you. Communication with HR, interviews - this is your way to find out how things are going.
PS It is clear that the more knowledge you have, the easier it is to get a job, but knowledge by itself cannot be employed, you need to report about it.

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HellWalk, 2017-08-25
@HellWalk

How are things going with the juniors?

My experience (back-end php programmer):
Studied php/mysql/oop in my spare time for ~9 months - started going to interviews, out of dozens of sent reviews I was invited to two - they were refused everywhere. I realized that without knowledge of frameworks, nowhere.
I paused in the search, studied Laravel for 2 months (+ pulled up a little JS) and made a simple landing page on it with editing information through the admin panel - I sent out my resume again. Conducted 3 interviews, two companies invited.
In one place they offered 50k, but there was only 1 back-end, in another - 40k, but there was a large development team. Went to the second one.
PS Moscow.

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Maxim Fedorov, 2017-08-25
@Maksclub

I don’t have to from week to week, I was looking for a job for 2 weeks - there were simply no vacancies, then an avalanche and I immediately found a job, there was even little competition for me :)
Novosibirsk

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seapp, 2017-08-25
@seapp

It all depends on the city you are going to. There is a big shortage of programmers in Moscow! I am more than sure that within one month you can find a job. The main thing is that your future employer would see the potential in you! And the requirements are really high. Sometimes vacancies are posted by HR employees who were given the task and they themselves do not know what you should be able to do. This is evident when the job posting describes a candidate comparable to Fullstack Ninza.

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