How adequate is it to require home development from developers?

Question

Career in IT

I noticed that in many Western companies, as well as CNG bodyshops, it is a practice to ask for a performance review of how the developer pumped himself in his spare time.
Like what books, blogs on programming, technologies read. What technologies have you tried? What conditionally added to open-source and so on. And if a person conditionally says that he is resting at home, or spending time with his family, then they broadcast a label to him, they say he has lost his passion for programming, and perhaps he should be minus (or not rewarded like that).
Those. in fact, the employer requires that his employees spend their free time on development.
To what extent is this a correct practice, and whether it is used in large Russian companies such as Sbertech, Yandex, soap, and so on.

Answer 1

cis bodyshop performance review open source

Lets mi speak from May Hart.
On the topic:
1). How did you draw these conclusions? Do you describe only your private subjective observations or do you have any sources, maybe an HR handbook, where the practice of labeling is directly described? Don't take it as being rude, you can just say whatever you want.
2). The questions you listed are quite normal, they were asked to me at every interview. This is how motivation, love for one's work, the level of development of the interlocutor are checked.
3). To develop on and off work is an ordinary quality of a normal IT specialist. If someone says that he has already reached some heights and has nowhere to develop further, then this person is either lying, or will soon become obsolete and lose value. The IT field is changing constantly and relatively quickly, and learning something yourself is a severe necessity, because there are no educational programs for a number of specialties even in the West.

Answer 2

This is quite adequate, because in this case the employer has only one goal - to help you find another job as soon as possible.

Answer 3

it's simple: if a specialist is valuable, then even if he says that in his free time he uses dogs in different places, they won't tell him anything, because then he can get upset and leave.
and if not valuable, then you can think of anything. "cool off for your wife, but not for programming!", "better a prostitute's daughter than you lying on the couch!", "sell friends, sell relatives - buy a lamp whip and TEACH!"

Answer 4

You enter into a contract with the company, which sets out the rights and obligations of the parties. Based on the contract, the adequacy of the requirements is determined.
In European companies, for example, they closely monitor the work-life balance of employees. You will never be required to take personal time.
For example, I spend a lot of personal time on self-development, simply because it is interesting to me. Someone thinks otherwise, and does not spend. His right.

Answer 5

How good is this practice?

of course it's right! The slave must work hard. And when he runs out of steam, he will be replaced by another lover of "self-development", who will also inevitably burn out in 10 years.
and further. self-development is a myth imposed on you by employers themselves. what you call self-development is a direct path to burnout. you will not become a millionaire, especially if you live in the Russian Federation, if you learn all the technologies (and you will never learn them). but turn into a creature without a personal life, a geek. do you guys need it? read at least this article, all this useless bondage is well described there - https://ebanoe.it/2017/04/02/wasted-life-in-it/

Answer 6

I went through a lot of social work. And just the most shitty, but at the same time rogue companies, who wanted to pay around 30 thousand, but at the same time fuck you to the fullest, squeeze out all the juices, and it’s better to take you into slavery, asked such questions. This will be a list of required skills, the size of which can only be limited by the maximum allowable number of characters in the ad.
You need to learn how to filter, such questions are a bad marker for the employer

Answer 7

If a developer wants to develop, then he will spend no more than 4 hours on work. For a job that pays.

Answer 8

In my opinion, it all depends on the conditions in general.
At employment (June, not a large company, alas), they asked me, although I did not indicate it in my resume.
They took it, I think, mainly thanks to Github immediately without a trial period, by asking questions about the code.
In my case, this was simply a plus over other candidates.
So, I had a free schedule + the ability to work remotely. In my opinion, in this case, the questions are quite fair, taking into account such working conditions.
Perhaps, with a full working day in the office, provided that the company does not have time allocated for self-study and the development of other skills, then they are not adequate. But if they raised my salary, taking into account my self-education and demonstrating their results, I would agree to this.
Also, in my opinion, it depends on what the employer generally needs. It's one thing when they hire to support and refine an existing stable system and they need a regular average developer / without unnecessary ambitions and problems, another thing for a new project.
After all, sitting on the same, performing the same tasks will only stagnate.

Answer 9

I wasn't asked.

Answer 10

I noticed that in many Western companies, as well as CNG bodyshops, it is a practice to ask for a performance review of how the developer pumped himself in his spare time.

And this is for two reasons:
1) When their imagination is not enough for what to ask. They ask all sorts of nonsense. He helped conduct interviews, we also came up with all sorts of similar tests, simply because we didn’t understand what else to ask.
2) When the applicant (beginner programmer) still has nothing to show. Let this stand out.
Qualified already can send in response to such questions.

Answer 11

A list of such employers would be - we would also label them.
This is inadequate.
The desire must be to work for yourself. And then you describe IT slavery. But it's strange - you see you go around the circles of slave owners - you yourself have not seen anything like it.

Answer 12

to work in the best companies, you must be the best yourself, in a competitive environment when everything is developing dynamically - this means constant development, training, as a rule, at the cost of losing relationships, family, entertainment. This is the only way up.
But you can be "average", then none of this is needed. Of course, the vast majority of companies are mediocre, as well as the staff who work there, and this is normal . It's not normal when in a mediocre company they ask staff if you work for Google))))

Answer 13

I don't think there is such a practice anywhere.

Answer 14

A young guy can be asked about this approximately according to this logic.
Now you have fucking free time - what do you spend it on?
Get a job - it will get worse over time, will you have enough interest for a full time job?
If you start a family - it will become very tight over time, will it affect your work?
Well, plus "you can't teach a programmer, you can help him learn" - if you still don't represent yourself and don't level up on your own - what, an employer to guide you?

Answer 15

Do not download, 100 Indians for $ 5 an hour in your place.

Answer 16

Well, it's a normal question. It gives you a chance to talk about what interests you.
And if you do not read anything and are not interested in anything, then this is your right. But then the employer will have an understanding that it makes no sense to take you for growth. Or give a stupid job or find an employee with better prospects.