Higher / secondary special education for a system administrator?

Question

System administration

Good evening! I would like to do system administration, currently busy in another area. There is an opportunity to get a second education in Moscow. Higher or secondary special. In person or in absentia. Can you recommend a specific state course that will not be a waste of time, will give knowledge and practical experience? Or is it just to score on VO and engage in self-development, online courses, and that's it?
I am only interested in the questions of people who have taken place in this profession.
Thank you very much in advance!

Answer 1

1) For a system administrator, a university gives only a diploma, which is needed only in order to be able to officially arrange a job in a state institution or in a large commercial one with the requirements of the level "we even have cleaners with a higher!" If you already have a diploma - do not waste time on the 2nd higher education. The very fact of the absence of VO often makes it very difficult to get an interesting job.
2) There should be a predisposition to system administration, an interest in this area. Random people in this area do not linger, or even if they work with a grating heart, you will not envy them - there is nothing good in engaging in an unloved activity. In general, I agree with the saying of Confucius - "Find a job for yourself and you will not have to work a single day in your life."
3) If you don't care about point 2, then it's better to go into programming - this is a much more popular and highly paid area. Personally, I don't want to.
4) I can’t recommend any specific courses, because the field of system administration itself is very diverse and the areas of activity do not always somehow intersect with each other. I remembered a conversation with a classmate, a typical Windows admin-enikey (I have nothing against Win, if anything), who left for Moscow from my outback in order to conquer the capital with his charm and skills. I ask: "Well, how is it? What would you advise to pump based on the realities of the labor market in Moscow time?" He paused, sighed, and replied: "Screw Linux." In general, this is in any case relevant advice :D
5) Practice and more practice. You can be a theoretician of seven spans in the forehead, but this will not help in reality if there is no experience with real infrastructure. If you have not decided in principle - get a job as an enikey worker somewhere just to start and understand in which direction you would like to develop. For example, if you have an interest in network administration, you can work with some provider.
Well, the ancient button accordion is always relevant:
If drivers were hired in the same way as system administrators and programmers, then it would look something like this:
Vacancy: driver.
Requirements: professional skills in driving cars and trucks, trolleybuses, trams, metro and funicular trains, excavators and bulldozers, tracked special vehicles, infantry fighting vehicles and modern light / medium tanks in service with the CIS and NATO countries.
Rally and extreme driving skills are required.
Experience driving Formula 1 cars is a plus. Knowledge and experience in the repair of piston and rotary engines, automatic and manual transmissions, ignition systems, anti-lock systems, navigation systems and car audio systems from leading manufacturers are required. Experience in bodywork and painting is a plus.
Applicants must have Mercedes, BMW certificates, as well as certificates of participation in major international rallies no more than two years old.
Salary: XXXXX - YYYYY rubles, determined by the results of the interview.
PS And one more thing: you always need to learn, constantly, just to keep up with technology. An IT specialist (it doesn't matter - a system administrator, programmer, network manager, etc.) cannot afford the luxury of working from 8 to 5, and in his free time, completely throw the work out of his head, otherwise you will quickly become irrelevant. Such irrelevant uncles are often found: they mastered something .. about a dozen years ago and by inertia they try to apply their long-outdated knowledge everywhere, instead of developing.
PPS I'll subscribe to the question so that it goes to the "Most Interesting". It is interesting to read the opinions of other participants of the resource.

Answer 2

The university provides fundamental knowledge. If you have nothing else to do, go study. Or are you asking for blessings?

Answer 3

Depends on the age, the
university is still in Russia not about practice, but about the foundation and, most importantly, acquaintances in the field of work

Answer 4

If you already have a tower of a technical plan, you can not get any second, because they do not teach administration. The administrator - he's about like a doctor - to work, he must know a stellar heap of all sorts of information, and also be able to quickly find what is currently needed, but he gains work experience only in practice.
Just as it is impossible to become a doctor only by reading books on anatomy and physiology, so it is impossible to become an administrator only by reading literature. The main admin academy is the place where you will work.
Well, fdroid said quite rightly - you have to constantly learn.

Answer 5

If I am worthy, then 2 tower or graduate school will be "State Relations and Management", "Economics", MBA.
Here, by the way, you need to clearly understand why this is all for you. My first VO is a nuclear physicist, but somehow it didn’t grow together very much. Right now I'm leaning towards option 2 or 3. Understand what I write there for "accounting". Well, perhaps the most important thing is to meet new people.

Answer 6

In 1994, I went to the university for a month to open lectures on the basics of the Internet - one ideological teacher. And I learned enough about the Internet, which at that time almost no one had heard of, much less seen, not to mention the understanding of the work. That's all that I took out from there that was valuable in its specifics ... When I first sat down at a computer connected to the network, I did not waste valuable time studying, because I already knew everything that was needed.
Let's imagine: you are just Prometheus and burn with an IDEA. You will find the ideal university, and there will be teachers from God who work in parallel in the right industry at the forefront of progress, and will give you all the cutting-edge knowledge in all the nuances of the profession. Then you can easily find a job of your dreams in some very large and fashionable organization, you will build competent data protection there. But having worked, you will understand:
At such a job and with such requirements for candidates, they most likely will not invest in you for further development. Development interferes with current work. And in IT - 5 years - and your knowledge can be multiplied by zero.
In a large and serious organization - the intensity of the fifth point of support, the search for truth, the demand for new approaches, new structures, new equipment and software - all this will meet a wave of resistance at all levels. The efficiency of work will be at best 10%. There will be a bunch of off-the-shelf errands - which you will only do because the fools around you can't handle them. There will be idiotic orders from a young, ambitious and effective leader, with MBA courses, who doesn’t understand shit about work, but is smarter than everyone else. And you will unquestioningly work on HIS instructions, you will see in advance the dead end and problems in his orders, and you will constantly disentangle and redo everything, and you will always be to blame for his mistakes. Eternal deadline. And even completely trample, as too smart and restless.
You can consider a university only as a springboard, but you can successfully jump into a swamp from a springboard. This path is good for those who are incapable of self-learning. I learned, got a job, picked up "points", achieved an increase in salary and ran out of steam. Everything, then sit exactly in a warm place until the very pension. For some, it’s quite an option, you can’t brush it aside.
On the other hand, a person who is interested, capable of analysis, self-development, and who has free time from work and, most importantly, the strength and desire to think - he does not need a springboard. Yes, the start will be a little worse, but in 5 years his profile knowledge will be at the right level. The IT industry is always changing very quickly, it needs to live, it needs to be followed. Constantly learn.

Answer 7

Worked as a system administrator. The first 2-3 years you study, and then you sit on YouTube out of boredom. Dead end is a branch of development. The second VO for the system administrator is superfluous.
Most companies do not require super-duper skills and, accordingly, the salary is not very high. Better look towards DevOps or development.
In any case, only self-education + additional. refresher courses.

Answer 8

Can you recommend a specific state course that will not be a waste of time, will give knowledge and practical experience?

state - no. If you can still go to some cool university as a programmer, and then by itself it will not make you a programmer, but there will simply be companies around that select promising students for their practice, all sorts of competitions, olympiads, etc., and that's all If you still have to practice yourself in parallel with your studies, then in the case of system administration, there is not even such a thing, everything is done by yourself. A sysadmin is a practical profession, everything is based on experience: the experience of quickly finding the right one and applying it, and the experience of "putting out fires", that is, fixing problems. Actually, it is the solution of problems that pumps the fastest when you first solved it somehow, so that the business does not stand idle, and then figured out how to solve everything reliably, so to speak, lay straws everywhere (monitored, automated, etc.).

The first 2-3 years you study, and then you sit on YouTube out of boredom.

well, or you change jobs for another, where the infrastructure is more complicated and there are new challenges for yourself. Plus, you can also go to DevOps from the admin if you know how to talk to people. In general, it’s somehow strange to sit on YouTube during working hours out of boredom, how much money do they have to pay in order to sit on YouTube instead of development?

I would like to do system administration

and why exactly them? How do you imagine all this, that you would like to go exactly here?