Freelance. Should we consider Russian stock exchanges?

Question

Freelance

I've been trying to get my head around freelancing for a while now. I draw sites, I know how to typeset, and although I don’t have much experience in layout, I’m sure I can make any intelligible site. Of course, upwork beckons with its currency, but so far it has not been possible to grab an order.
With grief, I turned my head towards the Russian exchanges and was horrified. They reminded me of a dump of customers who always wanted to beat with a bat in the alley. In addition to orders, like: “Copy me the largest British online clothing store, translate it into Russian, fill it with unique content. The admin panel should be very convenient and beautiful. The payment is very worthy - 10,000 rubles ”I didn’t see anything there and it bombed me so that a typhoon began in China.
There is a sense of hopelessness in the design/layout niche, and you don’t want to work in another sharaga in your city for 20 thousand (the average salary in the city). Maybe I gave up early and on the Russian stock exchanges somewhere hidden mountains of gold with worthy customers? In general, do Russian exchanges have opportunities other than “a turnkey website for 4,000 rubles, with a payment system that is needed tomorrow”?

Answer 1

If you can work on non-Russian stock exchanges, it makes no sense to consider Russians, in the West they paid a couple of times more, and with the dollar exchange rate at least 4 times already.
In Russian freelancing, there are enough good customers, but they work with good freelancers.

Answer 2

You need to consider everything that objectively suits you. If it's good with English - it makes sense to consider English-language resources, German - German, etc. At the same time, no one bothers to continue to view options on Russian-language sites.
My personal opinion - that the attitude "get in line for me, despicable clients. maybe I'll deign to take up your stupid projects" - should be rejected at the root.
If you're freelancing (and not just trying to make a couple of bucks by working part-time at your main job during working hours, pushing your main job, like I have free time at work), then you always have moments when you either have a project or no. And when there is no project (and, let's say, there is no stash to just not work and have a little rest), I think that all options should be considered. If there is no better job, you can take something cheaper. Let's say choose something where, in addition to earning money, there is a chance to get acquainted with something interesting and upgrade your skillset a little. Well, or just the subject of the project (its application area) will be interesting to you.
In general, if the goal is stable normal money, get a job in the office. If they don’t take it yet, download the missing skills. Office experience is generally a very useful thing - I advise everyone to start with this before breaking into the freelance market and then creating dumping there with low-skilled hands
:) freelancers :) Have you ever tried to see something on the laptop screen in the sun under a palm tree? :)

Answer 3

I think they should be considered only in one case: if the dollar is banned or swift is turned off, in other cases welcome to upwork etc

Answer 4

There are customers on the Internet, that's for sure.
if you are unlucky to find it on the exchange or in ads, then well, I don’t know, look in VK.
but of course it's easier to search offline. there and people will be less knowledgeable about the area, and more willing to accept your proposals without knowing your competitors

Answer 5

If you want currency, but they don’t offer money, then try to master an alternative specialty, the one in which you have “little experience, but I’m sure” - this will allow you to have money for life and not clutch frantically at any offer “there are shitcoders all around, well, like you amuse me, maybe I'll give you a job."
Firstly, working for thanks, you are digging a hole for yourself in which all those countless spoiled, but who have not read Pushkin's fairy tales customers of freelance sites, who are inadequate in their requirements and pay, sit, and secondly, you still won’t surpass Ravshan and Jamshut.
For example, sitting as a security guard at night in some office, you can train in an interesting business, hang out on foreign forums and sites (not freelance exchanges, but where people sit) acquire connections and acquaintances, which, in the end, will allow you to receive currency precisely for what am interesting.

Answer 6

I am constantly looking for good typesetters, only I have already changed 6 people.
The Russian market is saturated with shit-designers (-coders, etc.), mainly because of this, the quality sucks and, accordingly, they pay less.
You can show me your skill and I can hire you through upwork.

Answer 7

There are thematic SEO, Content forums. There are many customers with a lot of work. And it will be easier to agree, because this is a forum.

Answer 8

Take the first orders very cheaply. Earn karma on the exchanges - regardless of whether they are Russian or not. After the high-quality execution of several dozen orders, start raising the bar little by little. I was on both sides - both a freelancer and a customer.

Answer 9

I have never used stock exchanges. Looking for clients myself. I combine on-line and off-line methods of finding clients.

Answer 10

Comrades, besides upwork, what exchanges are well-proven?