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next_page_my2017-10-12 18:00:14
IT education
next_page_my, 2017-10-12 18:00:14

Do you need to go to school?

Hello everyone, I will describe the essence of the issue. I study in the ninth grade, I study well - fours, fives. But because of my studies, I don’t have enough time to do what I love, namely coding and learning something new with computers (CS), I understand that I can become a good engineer if I forget about the school curriculum, but if I’m wrong, school knowledge help me in the future. Or if I do not deal with computers, but only study, will it be good or what? The essence of the question I think is clear. What can you advise?

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SharuPoNemnogu, 2017-10-12
@SharuPoNemnogu

Ahah, school interferes with him ...
Here you will be 30 years old, family, children, a moron cat, an eternal rush job at work, mortgages, repairs, a rocking chair .. but no one canceled development, and you still find time.
So do not talk nonsense, study at school and develop in parallel.

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Saboteur, 2017-10-12
@saboteur_kiev

"I understand that I can become a good engineer if I forget about the school curriculum, but if I'm wrong and school knowledge will help me in the future. Or if I don't deal with computers, but only study, will it be good or how? I think the essence of the question is clear What can you advise?” “
You can't. To become a good engineer, you must know both the school curriculum and more.
If you think that you are a good student, if you think that you can become an engineer and solve any problems - solve a simple life problem right away with good practice. The task is this:
1. You go to school, agree on passing exams and external tests. You officially agree that you do not attend regular classes, and attend only the necessary tests, exams, minimum practice.
2. You do all of the above, and really pass all the control and exams no worse than 4-5.
3. Profit. And there is education, which is necessary, and there is time, which is necessary, and he proved to himself that he is able, in principle, to organize himself and solve practical problems, and not engage in "couch analytics."
If you can’t master the above, study at school like all ordinary people.

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Twelfth Doctor, 2017-10-12
@verdex

You need to learn and combine programming. If it doesn’t work out at all, give preference to school, and after the 11th grade you can already go to the university for the appropriate specialty.

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Vladimir Sergeev, 2017-10-12
@moozooh

In my time, it used to be that if you are 100% sure that the subject will not be useful to you in the future (music, there, drawing or some other crap), then you go to the teacher and explain the situation: you and your subject are loyal I am, but I am going to connect my life with other areas of knowledge and right now I am already working on this; let's figure out how we can unload each other so that no one is offended. If the teacher is adequate, he will not mind. His time is also important to him - he would rather spend it on other students. Sometimes you can ask the head teacher for help (again, if he is adequate).
Physical education, on the other hand, is useful for everyone, but once a week it is of no use as a fifth wheel. If you are strong and healthy, do exercises, go to the rocking chair, etc., then you agree in the same way, pass all the standards immediately and do not waste any more time. If you're not strong and healthy, then... maybe it's better not to refuse. It won't be redundant.
OBZH is a slightly more interesting and useful subject than it seems at first. At school, absolutely everyone hates him, but most often they don’t know what they are losing. If God forbid you need knowledge from the OBZh course, then when this happens, most often there will be no time to google them.
In computer science, you can safely pass all the necessary exams / external tests and go about your business. Or, if the teacher's qualifications allow, ask him to give you assignments that will challenge you according to your abilities. Kill two birds with one stone and make the teacher happy at the same time.
In general, the school curriculum is obviously overloaded with knowledge, but there are two reasons for this: 1) the student does not know in advance which ones he will need in the future, 2) he still needs to take time with something until he grows up and understands what he is really interested in (and enter a university or work in the relevant specialty). Continuous study does not allow you to relax, prepares you for the working regime and boosts the minimum level of socialization. If you don’t relax anyway and you enjoy programming, then there won’t be much harm if you optimize your time a little. Most importantly, do not forget to communicate with people - this is a useful skill, it must be honed continuously. :)

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Valentine, 2017-10-12
@vvpoloskin

Previously, everyone discussed whether a university was needed. And now we have already reached the point of whether a school is needed. Fuck the people went. I would not want my child to ask such a question. Remember once and for all:
a) A school is a general educational institution working according to a common program for everyone, there is no specialization and should not be. Are you a very cool programmer? Congratulations, and with you at your desk people who the computer has never seen.
b) The school provides basic knowledge in all subjects. Forget the Russian language, you won’t be able to write a resume, but just an application for a passport. Forget about physical training and become a hunchbacked nerd with an eternally sore head by the age of thirty. OBZH and music - it's just necessary and everything, like taking out the garbage from the house, there is no need to discuss it.
c) School not only provides education in various subjects, it also develops your social and personal skills, and this is much more important in life than mathematics or biology, because. You can't learn it from textbooks.
d) The school provides an opportunity to reveal their capabilities. Let your professional activity be related to programming, but you will not zadrotit computer for days and nights without leaving your home. You will have some other hobbies (frequent hobby, suddenly, music), or maybe you will give up programming altogether in favor of something else. At the age of 15 this is normal, then it is much harder.
e) Having completely scored on school, you simply cut off part of your future opportunities, which you will greatly regret later. You won't go to school at 20.
Well, if here you are now being dissuaded from getting a higher education - do not listen! Those who didn’t get it will themselves whine and complain after 35 sitting at best freelancing how hard it is to find a job. Yes, now a bunch of people will come running and everyone will say "I don't have it and I don't regret it." They regret it. Well, if only not ideological ones, of which there are only a few per thousand people.

⚡ Kotobotov ⚡, 2017-10-12
@angrySCV

the previous question about the university was different in that the dude didn’t pull, and asked if they should score if I didn’t pull the material.
The current formulation of the question suggests that the dude is pulling the training, but asks what is better to focus on.
My opinion - if you feel that CS is yours, and you need to focus even more in order to achieve great success, then it is so, indeed, if you focus only on programming there, you will achieve more success, and along the way you will have to within learning programming to master mathematics and the same physics, but already within the framework of programming, such as graphics, game engines, or data analysis.
My advice is -> give it up and focus on the things that matter to you.
When you need to get, for example, a certificate, or something else, you will return to the school curriculum, and under the requirements of the Ministry of Education, you will hand over what they require is an exam or something else.
as if the essence is such that the order is not so important, the motivation to do something is more important, there will be a desire to return to the school curriculum, then you will return, now it’s rushing from CS, you need to move there.
And what you need, for example, to finish school at the age of 16, in my opinion, outdated approaches.
If I chose for myself, I wouldn’t go to school at all, I would be engaged in self-study, it would be more sense (but this is not for everyone, of course).

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Astrohas, 2017-10-12
@Astrohas

Need to study

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alvvi, 2017-10-12
@alvvi

I understand that I can become a good engineer if I forget about the school curriculum,

And if you don’t score, then you won’t be able to?) Do it
as a hobby, and not as an excuse for studying the school curriculum, without knowing which, in any case, you won’t become an engineer. If you have a school that likes to load up with a meaningless pile of dz, and you are 100% sure that it is meaningless, do not do it, and free up time. But if your school is good, then refusing to receive free and quite useful knowledge just for the sake of coding in the 9th grade is somehow stupid, IMHO.

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Griboks, 2017-10-12
@Griboks

After school, time will only be missed even more! Of course, you need to study in order to understand not only the program code, but something more. Of course, if you plan to print code for the rest of your life at the behest of the manager, then you won’t need Russian, mathematics, physics, biology and everything else)

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devalone, 2017-10-12
@devalone

Learn so that your parents do not swear and kick you out of school (are they generally kicked out at school for poor progress?). I see no problem combining school and learning to program, for all sorts of unnecessary garbage like history, literature, etc. you can score if you are not interested, but for example, mathematics, I do not advise skipping, it will come in handy. And most importantly - learn English, you have 2 years for which you can learn it very well, pass IELTS or TOEFL and continue your studies abroad (if you choose the right country, after studying and working for a couple of years, you can get a residence permit), but even if you do not dare, English will be extremely useful both in work and in life.

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Nikita, 2017-10-13
@AgentProvocateur

Back in the 8th grade, I entered the mode - until 13.30 lessons according to the school curriculum, 14.00-17.00 - a school special course (such as a circle) on programming (now, probably, there is one in every school), the rest of the time - doing homework and independent programming (and also 3D modeling, flash animation, etc.). Special courses, of course, also did not take place every day.
And there was not even a hint of lack of time and reflection that I was spraying, that I wanted to "eat a fish and sit down" and other dregs. Despite the fact that he studied without triples, and never had any directly outstanding abilities relative to his peers. Moreover, he regularly traveled to conferences and programming competitions, and even took places.
There is a suspicion that there was no lack of time because then there was no social. networks, the Internet was on cards through a telephone modem (in short, expensive and slow), and it never burned with toys (most likely due to a weak computer), I could drive a couple of hours on weekends in heroes 3 at most.
Then there was a hormonal explosion, girls /luboff, parties, a bolt laid out for study and zadrotstvo (and still without triples), and later for programming (because I plunged into online marketing and my own projects, which turned out to be much closer and more interesting to me than "sorting bubble")) But that's not the point, in fact, everything is feasible and you create a problem out of the blue.
In any case, without a high school curriculum, you have nothing to do in the field of IT and engineering.

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Varvara Kosareva, 2017-10-19
@Virel

If you are in the 9th grade, then after it go to an IT college and you will combine business with pleasure. :) But only to a good, prestigious college. Therefore, fully push with all your might on mathematics and computer science - they are more important to you than anything in the world right now !!! And go to college!

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Andrey Pletenev, 2017-10-21
@Andrey_Pletenev

If you need extra time, cut out not school, but computer games, social networks and TV. Nothing to lose, only gain.

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