Cashing out a Payoneer card

Question

Freelance

More than half a year ago, on Habré, an article appeared For accounts abroad - a fine of up to 100% . In short - when cashing out from a Payoneer card, it is possible to receive a penalty of 100%.

I'm interested in how things are going with cashing out funds from a Payoneer card at Russian ATMs.

Answer 1

The situation is this. Payoneer is _not_ a bank per se (however, the IRS can make it become a bank - it's up to him). Your name is Vasily Pupkin. Having ordered a card, Vasily withdraws money only at ATM and the Internet (on foreign sites), while quickly avoiding _any_ payments in stores (clothing, groceries) - wherever a signature is required. If, however, such a situation arose, we put an indistinct cross, the main thing is that the video cameras should not be seen.
Further, the situation is this - if Vasily is caught for tax eggs, let them prove that a Russian citizen Vasily Pupkin and a certain Vasiliy Pupkin are one person, to prove that Vasily is still a camel, _unreal_, but you never know Vasiliy Pupkin in America? In addition, if Vasily asks such questions on this forum, then he probably does not turn millions through this system and can sleep peacefully.
If Vasily is tormented by nightmares at night and he has sufficient funds, then for the sake of his own security (both from tax and anti-fraud), he can safely reissue a _new_ card every 2 months for only $12.95. If even after that Vasily sleeps restlessly - there is only a neuropathologist

Answer 2

If you have small turnovers, then everyone will shit, they will first pester those who have large ones.
It is the same with legal entities, there is no news that millions of companies received claims of 10 thousand for underpaid tax, and the news of a number of Gazprom did not pay one billion in taxes in 2006.
It’s just that everything is not automated in the tax office and it makes no sense to run after a physicist with a card turnover of 1000 bucks a month

Answer 3

We have a similar situation in Belarus (you cannot have foreign accounts). I shot without problems, a number of friends too.

Answer 4

And also, I advise, from experience, to remember and erase the CVV code with sandpaper as soon as the card arrived. It’s calmer when you pay in stores, with any card, and even more so with Payoneer, which is open for payment on the Internet and cannot be closed / can be with a very big bang.
In general, every 2 months we change the card for 13 bucks, do not sign checks or put pluses with our left hand and withdraw from different ATMs. And most importantly, we don’t tell anyone that you have Payoneer :)
I work according to the white scheme, I have my own needs for this, but I think that I conveyed useful information. Better to be overdressed than underdressed. Works for 2 minutes, but then there are no problems

Answer 5

AlexP11223 - MC does not have protection with SMS confirmation and other things, such as Visa || AE. It will help that the card number will change, it will be much harder to track the movements in the accounts, there are many surnames and names - they will prove twice that the camel.
nightstalker - this is a typo, I meant the purchase of goods, but only on foreign sites
321 - do we go to ATM in hoods? :) Maybe from a satellite they can too. But this will not be done if there is no targeted fishing. The amounts are not large, this is not theft of money, so sleep well. As for the cameras, let them film. The quality of the image there is so bad that if the case goes to court (which is simply from the realm of fantasy), any normal lawyer will bring a dozen from the street the same as in the video. In addition, there is a storage period

Answer 6

I easily receive income on my Payoneer card and withdraw money from ATMs in many countries, including Russia.

Answer 7

The second year is fine.