Are the customers so stingy gone or am I not understanding something?

Question

Freelance

When looking for new orders, I increasingly come across this situation:
Clients from developed countries (US, UK, Canada, Australia) regularly set a fixed price of $50-150-350 for a large amount of work, which is very suspicious.
There is no desire to beat such projects and find out what kind of nonsense it is - I value my time too much, but at the same time there are very few adequate price tags.
What is it?
Upwork bends? Or are such offers just an excuse for the client to contact the developer, and the payment goes past the upwork? And by the way, I briefly looked at the order history of such clients, so they often have the same low-paid, but voluminous projects and freelancers who worked on them have a high rate. It looks like some kind of scheme ... Is it worth responding to such customers?

Answer 1

That's it, good developers are no longer in short supply) Humble yourself, this is a market. Modern programming can be compared with engineering in terms of complexity, i.e. in fact, there is nothing complicated here. And there are enough nerds and self-taught people.

Answer 2

$50-150-350 for a large amount of work, which is very suspicious.

What's suspicious? Everything is clear. It is suspicious when $20,000 for a small volume, but everything is clear here.
Yes, it's called looking for an Indian or a Russian idiot
Are you an Indian?

Answer 3

Modern programming is easy. The entry threshold is low. Manuals, documentation - heaps.
There is a story that there is a lack of qualified personnel. It is a myth. There are more than enough of them now and there will be even more in the future. So get used to it, nerds. IT is slowly moving into the usual craft, such as setting up Windows, technical support. Soon salaries will fall, and freelance Indians will work for food, because there are a billion of them, and everyone wants to eat. Then IT will finally end up in dumping ruins and the most promising professions will be builders, welders, carpenters, etc.
In principle, this is even for the better - a person who does not know how to work with his hands is pathetic.

Answer 4

It is the workers who have become too stupid, and are humiliated for a penny

Answer 5

I see the following reasons:
1) This is a market, and this is not just a market, but an Internet market. In a simple market in one city, for example, the level of salary claims is approximately the same (plus / minus according to the Gaussian distribution), because the environment is the same and the prices are the same, therefore the demands are similar. On the Internet market, one performer may need at least 2,000 greens a month for a living - and this is still very, very modest, while for another, 200 greens a month for his habitat is a whole wealth and you can live on them for half a year. The customer is looking for where it is cheaper to get the desired result. It doesn't matter to the customer the problems and requests of the contractor.
2) The customer himself does not know how much it should cost and sets the budget from the bulldozer, the minimum, so that only the publication passes. Offers come to him and he already gets an idea of ​​the real price.
3) He doesn’t plan to order anything, he just throws his raw idea to the masses and looks at the reviews how much he needs to invest in development. Estimated. And at the same time receives good advice for free.

Answer 6

It has always been like this - most of the projects are rubbish and you spend a lot of time looking for a profitable order, but it's worth it. You should not look from which country the client is from, because. among the "Americans" one often comes across Arabs who offer to work almost for nothing.

Answer 7

Given the fact that there are only thirty applications a month, it makes no sense

Answer 8

1. In the lowest qualifying segment, competition is fierce. Many are ready to work for a bowl of rice
2. Who is stopping you from offering your alternative price. Accompanied, of course, with a technical work plan so that it does not look like just a dumb mockery on your part. I did. And 3-5 times the price appointed. And then he got an offer.

Answer 9

Why is there no version about the fact that there are more customers of different tailoring. Recently, a friend asked me to make an online store, he began to deal with homemade jewelry. I barely persuaded me to start with an announcement on which thread Avito and create a page with the consecration of products on Facebook, and then persuaded me under the pretext that later, when orders were trampled, you could also make an online store. Just a person realized that every business and in general everything has its own website. And I decided that without this, it’s not necessary to look for how it can be implemented, and even as cheaply as possible. So on the upwork, there are people from all over the world, which means there are a lot of people who may not understand anything at all, not just in IT, but in all these Internet, computers, marketing, etc., and even more so in prices, costs. Either they understand but are looking specifically for a penny.

Answer 10

One foreign worker revealed a secret - such a rate in our difficult time gives such a bonus as protection from raids by beginners who rush to large orders, while having a minimum set of knowledge and a thought firmly driven into the head - and, and so it will do, I will grab the necessary knowledge in the process of work.
As you can see, everything ingenious is simple, in your situation there was an overlap of such orders and your own level of preparation.
I don’t even notice such orders from my 12-year-old bell tower))) Somehow they are filtered out or something, I still don’t understand ...))))

Answer 11

These are:
1. Or competition in the low-skilled job market;
2. Or search for machine operators (streaming the execution of one kind of tasks for a penny);
3. Or the search for freelancers starting their careers who want to “mine” themselves a rating (on this particular freelance site) for a good reputation, so that later they can take larger orders.
4. Or strong dumping by newcomers to compete with seasoned, smart and "gluttonous" old-timers of the site.
That is, the logic is as follows:
1. There are always more new registrations than those who have already registered and are working for a long time.
2. Therefore, the current approach to freelancers on the part of the customer to save costs is quite simple: no matter what your experience and how much you know, but if you just signed up - work for me for free a little ...
In any case, reasonable savings with the customer's side using any of the listed approaches - "on the face".

Answer 12

The crisis just struck (which, of course, does not exist) and the adult uncles began to save money. What should you save on first? The thing that is least understood is IT, which even a monkey will understand. We rushed to Avito, and there the site cost a couple of rubles in five minutes. "Vasya, why are you filling me up? What 50 thousand? Real specialists will do it for me for a pittance." Vasya sent, but it’s a hunt to eat. Vasya climbed over the hillock and found out that they were ready to give work there. He didn’t really know that the work was designed for Indians ... But now they know over the hill that there is Vasya and offers for low-paid orders can be printed under Russians.
Real work doesn't get cheaper, but here we are...

Answer 13

There are many people willing to do this for a low price. That's actually the whole story.

Answer 14

Still, I think you have some kind of niche problem. This doesn't happen in my niche. Well, sometimes I myself unsubscribe at such small fixed prices, but I raise the bid up to two or three times. Of course, with a description of the basis for such a budget. Not always, but it rolls.
Well, let's not forget that the price corresponds to the quality. About a year ago, I had a customer who at one time, for $ 10, a Pakistani made a simple CRM. Nothing complicated: muzzle and sqlite. Navayal in the best traditions of his people - when the number of entries exceeded three thousand, all this wildly slowed down at every step. My work on rewriting everything from scratch and migration then cost him much more) But the result was different) And now you can often see contracts like "rewrite", "improve", "optimize", where customers are no longer led to cheap workers and seriously consider over-budget bids.

Answer 15

Because marketers have firmly nailed slogans into their minds
Without programming knowledge
In 2 hours
, etc.