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BlackJack0432020-06-01 16:18:31
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BlackJack043, 2020-06-01 16:18:31

Are programmers really in demand right now?

Now I'm looking at vacancies in programming, and what did I notice?

Firstly, many vacancies have been hanging for a very long time, which means that they are fake or the employer is looking for some kind of genius.
Secondly, novice programmers are hardly needed anywhere, which means that the market is saturated with mature programmers
. Thirdly, salaries are no longer space.
Fourth, all sorts of freelance exchanges are filled to the ceiling with freelancers. the competition is huge.

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Northern Lights, 2020-06-01
@php666

Firstly, many vacancies have been hanging for a very long time, which means that they are fake or the employer is looking for some kind of genius.
not geniuses. just a person if he writes that he knows the difference between an abstract class and an interface, he must know this. If he writes that he knows OOP - he should know it. In 95% of cases, candidates are trying to deceive - they write one thing, but in fact they know nothing. So they can't find people.
Secondly, novice programmers are hardly needed anywhere.
not a correct conclusion.
It doesn't matter if you're a beginner or not. If he has knowledge, or at least shows promise in his reasoning and answers to questions, he will be hired.
In the third, salaries are no longer space.
they have never been in space in the Russian Federation, with the exception of large companies. Space means salaries in Ukraine, where they are pegged to the dollar, and the incomes of yesterday's gopniks who have retrained as OITs are not commensurate with the incomes of Russian OITs who work for an internal customer.

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Dr. Bacon, 2020-06-01
@bacon

1. Yes, but how does this affect the question itself?
2. Wrong causal relationship.
3. Normal salaries. As in other industries, only
4 people have space. Not all freelancers are on exchanges.

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Vlad Grigoriev, 2020-06-01
@Vaindante

1. Vacancies can hang for various reasons, maybe just a narrow specialist and you can really look for it for a long time. Or maybe the company is gradually expanding, and this vacancy needs a lot of people, and it can hang for a long time.
2. few when they were needed. and it means that only programmers with experience and knowledge are needed - how to gain experience is a separate issue.
3. everything is known in comparison conditionally in the EKB for a trainee (junior maybe) 20-30, for a middle about 100k. in general, not big money, but in general, in other areas it is a little more difficult to get them, in some it is almost impossible.
4. well, the same story of all newbies who don’t know the sea. Those who know something and represent something are not many and they have enough orders.
If the question is whether it is worth going now to study as a programmer in order to cut down the dough - the answer is no

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hatman, 2020-06-01
@hatman

It is clear that you want to hear that everything is bad and so on, but this is not so.
1) The market for specialists is quite narrow. That is, for example, if we are looking for a Django specialist who will come and start doing tasks after a couple of weeks of buildup, then there are very few of them. Therefore, the vacancies are hanging, they are filled with applications from "Waitishers" and non-core specialists, which are ignored, and hr waits until some specialist is either upgraded or released.
2) Beginners are not needed, because it is a waste of time and money. It takes a lot of time for existing specialists to train one specialist. Plus, it can always turn out that a trained beginner will turn out to be "rotten" and will not justify the money invested in him. Only a small pool of companies can afford this.
Now the crisis is even more so, and companies are cutting bones, including for training young animals.
3) The salaries are good (there are few places where you can get the same money if you don’t go into management or business). Plus, which is cool, growth to the top price tag is only 3-5 years. For example, some doctor or lawyer needs 20 years for this.
4) Freelancing is a business. It is natural to enter a formed market with a bare booty, where there are already players with well-established processes, it is difficult. But, like everywhere else, it's a matter of funding, time and luck.
In general, everything is good in IT. Good professionals get paid well and are in demand. Bad specialists sit without work, or receive a penny. Company formats are changing, but the demand for good hands is stable.

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Vitaly, 2020-06-01
@vt4a2h

Yes, they are in demand. But only those who have invested a lot and are investing in self-education and can solve business problems.
And beginners are needed. I answered there in one comment above under what conditions.

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Puma Thailand, 2020-06-02
@opium

Companies are growing and hiring all the time
. There are not enough average programmers, and beginners cannot even read a couple of books.
Until now, space, in my opinion, there really is not a single such mass market as programming where there would be such High salaries
and there are even more jobs than programmers

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