About freelancing competition?

Question

Freelance

Hello! I constantly hear people complain, incl. here on the Toaster, they complain that there is a huge competition from the “Indians” on freelancing and that good specialists cannot take an order. But as I understand it, the Indians are chasing cheap orders aka "imposition on CMS". The question then is the following - why can't good specialists take orders more difficult and work normally, with a normal rate? Or are all freelancing orders relatively simple and there is nothing to catch there? Thank you all for your replies, I really hope that clears up the situation!
PS We are talking about foreign freelance, in Russian, as I understand it, everything is bad.

Answer 1

• Indians and "good specialists" are different non-overlapping niches;
  PS
  Once I asked my good friend from India "why are Indians such crappy programmers?". She replied that it was a cultural feature. In India, in many schools it is forbidden to ask questions (at least it used to be), so the programmer performs the task as far as he understood it and rarely questions the ideas of the boss / customer. So it goes.

Answer 2

You need to understand that good specialists do not sit on the toaster)
I'm on the toaster for that. to order interesting pick up from time to time.
If a good specialist has been working for 3 years, then he simply has no problems finding a job, the job itself is looking for him.

Answer 3

lazy and stopped in professional development performers or pretentious govnocoders complain. competition is normal - it was, is and will be. and if it's stupid to cut coupons here and now, then in a couple of years it will be possible to go sweeping the streets - the CIS tough guys will soon be partially trampled from the market by southern colleagues. talk about the fact that Indians can only bydlokod - this is not an entirely objective assessment. the average level is lower, but it is growing and purely quantitatively there are more potential programmers than the general population of the Russian Federation.
so for middle-entry levels - yes, there is competition and it will grow in the future.

Answer 4

Those who are engaged in the simplest work are always more performers than customers.
At the other extreme - at the most difficult jobs - on the contrary, customers run around and look for freelancers.

Answer 5

there is huge competition from the “Indians” on freelancing and that good specialists cannot take an order.

There has always been competition. Become a cool specialist in any area, and there will be less competition. I think you will even know all your competitors.
Why do you think so? I think it also depends on the client whether he is ready to pay well, to a good developer? Or will he be stingy and hire an Indian for $6/h?
And those are enough. From time to time, invites come to me, where I did not work with half of the technologies, and at the moment there is no time to study them, and with a half, where I understand quite well.
In general, I agree with Andrew Pokora
Govnocoders are not only Indians. I have so far only had a chance to work with one upwork, quite adequate and knowledgeable, and without shitty code. But for that I have already met a bunch of "pros" from developed countries. The last ones I remember were from Italy, Germany and like France - the stakes are clearly too high, the deadlines for tasks were constantly disrupted, there was no adequate communication, and in the end they just silently merged. Although not, the last one was from KZ, knowledge and experience like a university graduate, the rate is 25+, as a result - a quiet drain, and someone from the rest of the team has to undermine to finish his task.
PS here are my thoughts only on my own experience of working on upwork for six months.

Answer 6

More than half of freelance orders are simple and are designed for a maximum of a week of work for one person. It turns out that many and not only Indians can do this, so most of these orders have 10+ responses.
I worked with a talented Indian who is in no way inferior to a typical middle and does not write shit code.
Talented Indians don't go freelance, they leave India. And there are more such Indians than Russians who leave Russia.
In freelancing, it also happens that one "performer" takes an order, then resells the same order on the same exchange for less or on another with lower average rates. And accordingly, this lasts until it is cheaper already.
Many managers do this, and India has some of the best IT managers in the world. Microsoft and Google made Indians top managers for a reason.
Even on Russian exchanges, you can find orders with a description in English or translated through promt - these are typical orders taken from foreign exchanges and resold cheaply on Russian exchanges. Hindus do the same, but sell on their internal exchanges.

Answer 7

I take an order at any time convenient for me and for a REAL cost (without "antics" and dumping).
Because, I have vast experience, which allows me to solve most of the tasks that are set today in freelancing and receive positive feedback from clients.
Remember the main thing: there is no competition where there is continuous development and knowledge.
Everything else is from the evil one...
Verdict: gain personal experience, prove your promises with working code and completed projects. (Well, a blog , of course...)

Answer 8

Complain those who are representatives of highly competitive niches - because there, by definition, there is high competition :) To get into a low-competitive niche, you need to study what distinguishes representatives of the first group from representatives of the second and develop the appropriate skills. Everything is simple.