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jww, 2017-08-27 23:04:14

Why do people leave freelancing for the office?

What is the reason people leave freelancing for the office? I met people who have very promoted accounts on the exchanges, but they still go to work in the office. And even if you pay attention, many have the item "I'm looking for a long-term job in the office." Judging by this site, freelancing is all cool, but what then is the reason for leaving?

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Alexander Gamov, 2017-08-27
@slowdream

A freelancer must find an order, negotiate, agree on all aspects of the task, study the client for adequacy, take risks and a lot of everything else, and only then can start coding. And an office worker starts coding right away, and there are other departments to solve other problems.

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Sanes, 2017-08-27
@Sanes

Freelancing is difficult to progress. In the office, if there are interesting projects and a strong team, you will level up much faster.

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OnYourLips, 2017-08-28
@OnYourLips

There are several reasons for this:
Professional development. Freelancing is primarily an entrepreneurial activity, freelancers don't have teams. Freelance code is almost always very dirty, there is no main stage in the life of an application: support. A year in the office for the growth of professional skills with a good team leader can be compared with 5 years of working alone. This was the main reason for me, because I want to do what I like and do it well.
Desire to work on large projects. On freelance, there will be the same type of trifle for several months of work. In the office - projects for tens of hundreds of man-years. As a result - other tools. And the performer has completely different skills.
Stable income of a certain level. Plus a mortgage.

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Crash, 2017-08-28
@Bandicoot

Personally, I left because of the inability to work effectively from home. As soon as I fix this jamb, I'll come back)
Of the advantages of working in the office, I would note:
- You improve technically much faster and better
- They pay for the time spent at work. If the load is not too big, you can find time for self-education and even your own projects. It turns out the type of coworking paid by the employer)) With all due respect to him.
- You begin to prioritize and allocate resources more effectively - how and with what help it is better to solve the problem, spending the minimum amount of time and effort on solving it. This is especially important for people prone to intellectualization - the endless absorption of information without its practical application. Sitting at home, I studied a lot of theory, and there was a minimum of practice. In the office, everything was reversed and I began to get rid of this pathology.
- You learn to work through force. If you're a hangover, didn't get enough sleep, or something else, then you don't have the right to make yourself a day off. How cute you come to work in the morning and sit there until the evening. In freelancing, I often gave up on work if I was in poor health.
- The employer solves the problems of organizing work for you - like a mountain off your shoulders, you just code and that's it)

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sergey, 2017-08-27
@zorro76

He left a month ago, was in the top 100 as a developer and in the top 15 as a layout designer on the stock exchange, but received an offer from an American company and could not resist, why? tired of coding alone :))

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Anton Filippov, 2017-08-28
@vicodin

We couldn’t self-actualize in freelancing, because it’s much harder

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Alexander, 2017-08-28
@Thor

1. In many cases, this is the only option to legally move to the first world countries. Those. immigrate on a work visa. Of course, it's cool to live in Bali for a while, but sooner or later these "bird rights" will start to infuriate when you can be denied a visa at any visa;
2. Because if you do a good job, then a situation will very quickly arise when there will be more work than free time. Yes, you can raise the price tag to somehow narrow the list. But all the same, "overlays" will happen regularly - when you grab more work than you expected. The line between work and life is blurred.
3. For professional growth, it is useful to regularly change projects / teams. On freelance, you most often boil in your developments, which wander from project to project and quickly become obsolete morally and technologically (but don’t touch them to change them because it works!).
PS
100+ completed projects on Elance (RIP) and an overall rating of 4.7.
4. Some bad luck comes to the management of your favorite exchange and extortionately raise interest :(

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skepsikmod, 2017-08-28
@skepsikmod

You answered correctly above, as a freelancer you do a bunch of related garbage that is not related to development. You are a salesman, a project, and a marketer all rolled into one. In the studio, this is done by separate specially trained characters. Not to mention the division of even techies among themselves. Well, I don't believe in full stacks, it's always a compromise.

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Alexey Sklyarov, 2017-08-27
@0example

I will say for myself, due to the fact that I work like this, I often sit at home. Often you can’t sit at home, there will be psychological problems that I have, well, communication with living people is more useful than hanging around at home.
I would have worked in the office myself if I had not studied.
UPD: There is an interesting article on Newochem that describes all the problems.

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amambaru, 2017-08-28
@amambaru

1. Someone hasn't been able to find enough freelancing work. There is nothing to eat.
2. In freelancing, professional growth is well limited. In an office with experienced colleagues, there are more opportunities for growth.
3. Lack of self-organization, boring alone, freelancing does not correspond to the spirit of a person - you are your own boss, your own client manager, and this is not suitable for everyone.

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Puma Thailand, 2017-08-28
@opium

to be honest, I don’t know such people, although I know a lot of successful freelancers.
It makes no sense to go to an ordinary office for a significantly lower salary and not at all a free schedule for a normal person to
strike or something like the profiles of these amazing people.

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nikolayvaganov, 2017-08-31
@nikolayvaganov

Freelancing for 4 years now. Now it is difficult to call freelance what I do. Rather support current large clients + sometimes freelancing to warm up or find other clients for support. General life cycle:
1. actively sniping all orders (money x1, free time x0)
2. fulfilling orders, collecting profile reviews and a pool of clients (money x2, free time x0)
3. customers want more monthly support (money x3, free time x0)
4. switch to semi-freelance + support (x2 money, x1 free time)
5. gain an even larger pool and deal only with current clients (x2 money, x2 free time)
6. sooner or later some of the clients leave, complete projects, find cheaper (money x1.5, free time x2)
7. paragraph 1

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Ernest Fayzullin, 2017-08-27
@ernesto77

loneliness... Man is a social animal)

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coxbrain, 2017-09-04
@coxbrain

1. Many do not fit into freelancing. I was lucky, I left the office at the peak of demand, when freelance part-time jobs became equal to my basic salary. But very many, I read here, cannot even go out for $2,000 a month. However, hiring other freelancers, I readily understand why. Freelancing has become fashionable - people go into it being 0-th knowledge, which forces a person to compete with a billion Indians, and this is not promising. Someone did not fit in by qualifications, someone did not fit into the market, not being able to promote themselves, someone could not self-organize to a sufficient extent.
2. Why would I, an experienced and financially successful freelancer, want to move to the office?
a) The most important thing is the limitation of professional growth. Whatever they write about the fact that everything depends on you - well, I have nowhere to apply Kubernetes, for example. Tasks for it vsrechayutsya every six months. And when they take it there, they take it to the position of a junior developer. For no one will entrust the heart of their system to a remote worker.
b) You have to do all aspects. Which are not interesting to do. I would like to transfer to someone else. Yes, so that you do not get thrown. Let's say communication with the customer is not interesting. Interesting technical part. But without this, a freelancer cannot go anywhere - you need to communicate with the customer personally if you want to earn money.
c) It is difficult to self-organize. You come to the office - and willy-nilly you work. On freelance, I can go days without getting dressed, blowing coffee, watching movies, playing computer games. AND DO NOT WORK. In the office, the work process starts automatically. At least a little, at least a little bit - but it starts simply because a formal move has been made - you have arrived at the office.

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Lera Kryukova, 2017-09-01
@UtyaPutya

I will say the same about myself. telecommuting pays less than in the office, and you work more hours. You work without days off if you want to earn money. you take different projects, everyone powders your head, you get distracted. and again, looking at colleagues from offices, they invest money in them, send them to seminars, etc. they travel to other countries at the expense of companies and grow (I'm talking about large companies) and freelancing, in principle, you invest in yourself. and you do everything yourself. and if you don’t have a team, no one will point out your mistakes to you. freelancing is good for moms or students, and if you want to become someone in life, you also need to be able to study and work in a team) my opinion is personal) heh. it's just that at some point I realized that with my experience in the office I can get much more for the same working time.

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Alexander Pavlyut, 2017-08-28
@apavlyut

Don't be afraid
[I just wanted to write but it won't let me insert everything, so go to the link there, I laid out everything on this topic almost two years ago]
www.pavlyut.com/posts/freelance-is-good

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Nina Pykhtina, 2017-08-29
@Pykhtik

Only losers leave freelancing for the office . Adequate and self-confident people leave freelancing for LLCs and individual entrepreneurs.

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Roman Vasilenko, 2017-08-31
@farewell

Freelancing is becoming commonplace, the novelty has dissolved, the veil has fallen from the eyes. The specialist saw that he does not need to waste himself, and in an orderly and well-structured activity there are much more advantages than in the so-called freedom (for the majority, in fact, homelessness, if this word can be applied to people of age).
In general, historically, any labor exchange is the bottom. A freelance platform is an exchange, whatever one may say. Being a freelancer is a forced state. For example, I live in a relatively small city where the local level of income does not suit me. I don't want to move, but I want to earn more. I go to the stock exchange and find an order that will allow me to have an income that is between the capital and the local salary. It suits me. Something like this.

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Miroslav, 2017-08-28
@Miroslav77

Because freelancing is so, for experience no more. Would you be satisfied with the prospect of sitting on the exchanges and catching orders for a penny? For years. Unlikely.
If you work normally, there will surely appear regular and adequate clients, where they pay as much as you say (within reason, of course). For the most part, the "sarafanka" works, which brings in additional customers who are also willing to pay normally.
In 95% of cases, customers come to freelancing either with petty projects or stupidly to save as much as possible. The first is annoying, and there is no desire to even communicate with the second.
As a result, after a while you have only 2 ways left: to expand the staff and grow into a web studio, because you can’t cope with the flow of the same type of orders or are tired, or if you don’t do this, the same type of projects will get you and you want something more. If not your own staff or team, then work in the office with an already formed team. Here the main motivator is work in something bigger and more interesting.

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4ainik, 2017-09-11
@4ainik

to be in society it is not necessary to leave the house, you can communicate via Skype in a voice / video conference :)

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Julia Panova, 2019-11-29
@panovaiul1a

Everyone is looking for what he likes. Now, it seems to me, the opposite trend, many, on the contrary, leave the office for freelance. Because they are tired of the standard schedule, they want more freedom. And someone finds himself in freelancing, but the time becomes much less if you are a cool specialist and there are a lot of orders, or more time and less money. This is an eternal vicious circle. I just left the office and do peelings and others, as well as masks and cleansing for women. satisfied with everything so far. So I wish everyone to find their own way, the main thing is to try and understand what comes in.

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Mikle123456789, 2020-06-05
@Mikle123456789

Freelancing is difficult, because you can be thrown there, especially since you work alone and go crazy!

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