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blackstone2016-04-12 15:46:09
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blackstone, 2016-04-12 15:46:09

Which top processor to choose for development (i7-6700K vs i7-6700T) and at the same time silent?

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I decided to upgrade a very old system unit and take the most modern and powerful solution. This is desirable in order for modern IDEs like Idea to work as quickly as possible, especially for Java development.
At the moment, these are probably the top-end i7-6700K processors and the problems of choice would disappear by themselves, if not for the desire to get a quiet PC in addition to performance, if possible with passive cooling.
And this means that the cooler should be without a fan.
The heat dissipation requirement for the 6700K is 91W, for the 6700T it is 35W. Agree that the 6700T is much more suitable for a quiet PC. But...
In terms of performance, the 6700K is 20-30% faster.
Consequently, the 6700T will no longer be a top-end, but a passive cooler will suffice anyway.
That's why I want to consult with knowledgeable people about the best way:
1) Get a 6700K and a good passive cooler. The cooler will cope and will be both quiet and powerful. What if it can not cope without a fan? Then you have to add a fan, etc.
2) Take the 6700T and lose in performance (probably it will be slower to compile in IDE), but the passive cooler will definitely cope. But the thought will haunt that the percent could still not be top-end and could compile faster.
That. the main question - will Java compilation still be faster on 6700K?
Or if this is not a fact, then the 6700T is the best choice?

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blackstone, 2016-04-13
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I didn’t find a lot of benchmarks to compare performance, but for example .
The tests show that the 6700T loses to the 6700K, but maybe this is not critical after all for a development computer?
I couldn't find any information about using the 6700K with a passive cooler, but if you look at the load temperature of its top predecessors with fanless coolers, it jumps up to 80 or more there. Also on the Intel website is the recommended specification for the cooling system for the 6700K - PCG 2015D (130W). Fanless coolers are found at a maximum of 95W.
Therefore, I am inclined to believe that it is still impossible to do without fans for the 6700K, but with the 6700T it is quite possible.
But the main question, of course, is whether there will be a noticeable difference in performance for development in an IDE. If not, then for anyone, then an economical processor in terms of consumption is more optimal.
I also want to add that the PC is not planned for games. I use Linux with i3wm, i.e. the desktop is very undemanding to resources.
Before that, I always used system systems with mediocre characteristics, I didn’t have a top-end computer (although I periodically thought about it) and for development (web services in Python) an i3 processor on a cheap laptop was enough. But now I'm trying Java and after Python it's unusual that time is noticeably spent on compilation and IDE - already forgotten since the days of development in Delphi and .net.
Therefore, first of all, I would like to get advice from Java developers - how much the processor affects the speed of compilation.
The i7-6700 is probably optimal, it is faster than the 6700T and has a TDP of 65, which should allow the use of passive coolers.

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imhuman, 2016-04-12
@imhuman

How boring I live (s)
And on the topic, 6700T is enough for the eyes, the processor is far from the most influencing factor in working with the IDE. Maybe not to chase new products, which will soon become not new, but to get more RAM and a faster SSD? It will be more practical.

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Dmitry Alexandrov, 2016-04-15
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Therefore, first of all, I would like to get advice from Java developers - how much the processor affects the speed of compilation.

Too long thought at the time what to take and how best. As a result, he abandoned Intel and took the amd fx8320 purely because the parallelism is better anyway. It comes with 16GB of RAM and a 512GB SSD. The cooler took DEEPCOOL Frostwin V2, despite the monstrosity, the old screw crunches louder than this cooler works. For the rest of the money, I took a good 22 inch monitor that rotates to landscape / landscape orientation.
As a result, even though the percentage loses to i7, it’s very pleasant to work, there are no brakes, a bunch of software works very quietly in a crowd, a couple of virtual machines work, which are given a couple of cores (by the way, this was a critical moment for me and another spit on Intel). NetBeans works very fast, android studio also flies. Lost only with android emulation. it is sharpened for intel, but this was solved by installing android x86 on a laptop with the 2nd system.

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