Which smart home system to choose?

Question

Do it yourself

Tell me which smart home system you should choose for self-purchase and installation (which one can be figured out by a good electrician, but not installing this before) in a mansion?

Requirements for the system:
1) control from ipad / iphone (apparently through the web interface)
2) control of roller shutters, lights, TV sets, music, garage doors
3) access to cameras on the house and plot and control them
4) the ability to program (event conditions, schedule)
5) good documentation for both software and hardware
6) the possibility of self-purchase
7) sane price (that is, it is better to order from the manufacturer, without Russian intermediaries if the system is foreign) 8) UPD
voice control is desirable :

I will formulate the question in a different way - what kind of hardware solution is needed (to which all sockets / switches are connected by wires), to connect to a PC / laptop (via USB, apparently or via WiFi), which in turn has software to control it from a PC, to to which it is connected. Accordingly, it also needs special switches and sockets (which ones?).

Answer 1

My friends are engaged in the supply and installation of such systems, they especially recommend the Control4 system:
www.control4.com/
It meets all the requirements, it has its own native application for iphone / ipad. Programming and all other items are also possible.
The prices seem to be reasonable. We recently considered the complete equipment of a country house with an area of ​​370 square meters, 2 floors, 13 rooms, with full electrification of everything (i.e. gates, doors, cameras in all rooms, light control, air conditioners, heating, underfloor heating, video and audio equipment control , household appliances, curtains, blinds, etc.) - about 1.5 - 2 million came out. It was impossible to say more precisely. the project of the house was not final - they were developing the concept of houses for a country village.
Custom development is not required, the system is modular and allows retrofitting as needed, the main thing is that the base station to which all modules are connected supports all the necessary functions.
As for voice control - IMHO, this is superfluous. You get bored quickly, but it doesn't make much sense.

Answer 2

As far as I understand, systems of this scale are developed to order.

Answer 3

Look at control4. Modular solution. It was quite interesting to set it up, my friend and I set it up at his house.

Answer 4

I already wrote here about smart houses according to the KNX standard. I will repeat here, because I think that it is necessary to study all aspects of this topic and KNX Smart Homes, although expensive, are not just the same.
There are two ways to develop smart homes
The first option developed and gained popularity in America (USA), where shows and entertainment are more important to users. The second is European (Germany is more significant), where efficiency, energy saving, comfort are important, and investment attractiveness and return on investment (ROI) are important due to saving resources.
In Europe, the KNX (formerly EIB) standard has received the widest distribution, today it is already 26 years old. It is supported by about 400 manufacturers of electrical installation products, almost all European manufacturers of sockets and switches. KNX is a bus technology, that is, all devices communicate with each other via cable / wire (of course, there are also radio variations, but all the value and reliability is in the wire).
It is very important that KNX is not controlled by a central server, all devices have their own microcomputer (RAM, ROM, I/O controller, etc.). However, there are also central servers, but this is not an important part of KNX, but more for information processing and super-advanced system management.
I recommend: just look at the booklets of European manufacturers with a search by title - KNX, and you will definitely see that this is a large mass of manufacturers. This is an important advantage when choosing KNX, since you are not tied to one manufacturer and you get a wide choice in design, functionality and price.
It is often not necessary to talk about the reliability of KNX devices, since KNX devices are from the category of industrial and capital ones. We build a house, install KNX and everything works until the next overhaul.
Basically, a KNX smart home consists of two main groups of devices:
The remaining groups are already auxiliary devices: gateways and interfaces (for integration with other systems or connecting various devices), system devices, weather stations, clocks, visualization, etc. etc.
How inputs and outputs work. The outputs are basically relays (relay modules) and dimmers (dimmers) - they turn on the load (lamps, motors, etc.). Inputs are what create an event - buttons, switches, motion sensors, temperature sensors, air quality sensors, humidity sensors, etc.
KNX smart home can be extended with third-party visualization systems and logic modules. There is a very interesting OpenHAB project.
KNX is, however, very expensive and not many people can afford it. Perhaps this is from the category of elite. However, for those who need a smart home, and not deal with the element base (like with Arduino), they choose the KNX installation. Those who are fond of KNX have been building their own houses for years. Yes, and it can be a hobby.
Here is an example of how a person built a smart home for himself according to the KNX standard. It brings comfort and efficiency. For example, climate control in buildings brings significant economic benefits and lowering the temperature in a building by one degree Celsius gives 6% savings in energy costs for heating.
Therefore, the KNX standard must be chosen. He is over a quarter of a century old. All electrical companies in Europe make their equipment according to this standard (from A to Z / from ABB to Zennio).
All equipment from different manufacturers is interchangeable. It will not disappear if some company goes bankrupt, there are more than 400 of them around the world. All of Europe has long been on KNX. The Germans cannot build a house without it at all.
Look for information on the web about the KNX Smart Home and study the list of manufacturers according to the KNX standard.
Everything else is about automation or semi-automation.

Answer 5

If you are not afraid to manually (solder) connect sensors, then there are MajorDoMo or LinuxMCE systems

Answer 6

Most likely there are no ready-made ones, because we sell them for crazy amounts

Answer 7

I wrote about our Home Sapiens system . You can read the brief description, decide for yourself.

Answer 8

I can say that there are systems much cheaper
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everything is very simple
1) You leave your postal address
2) We send the questionnaire (what you want at home)
3) Send it to Us
4) and We all count
my mailbox [email protected] phone [phone]

Answer 9

Don't be fooled by *sane* and *low* prices. Wireless is the future and RF(433.92MHz), Zigbee is at the forefront of smart home. Their difference from each other: in the presence of two-way communication and a mesh network in Zigbee, which is sometimes necessary, but an overpayment of 3-6 times makes you think, while the range of RF is more than sufficient (up to 35m indoors). So, unfortunately, there are no manufacturers of Zigbee devices with an affordable price category yet, so RF devices are now successfully gaining momentum in the smart home market. In the USA it is Ninja with a small range of devices, in Russia it is i-Tone, the range of devices of which opens up possibilities for almost all desires: video surveillance, personal and engineering security, SMS informing, control of lights, curtains, gates, air conditioning, IR equipment, duplicating devices (lights, curtains), scripts, timers. And, of course, software for PC, IOS, Android.

Answer 10

We recommend buying everything from Russian manufacturers.
Smart House Anteks

Answer 11

Podzhkat - have there been any new modular "turnkey" systems that can be ordered on the Internet? ideally wired solutions.

Answer 12

Now 2020 is in the yard, all of the above is not very relevant, unless of course you are rushing from hundreds of different applications for different devices.
I recommend Apple 's HomeKit smart home ! especially if you already have a lot of gadgets from Cupertinites ..

Answer 13

M. yes. Whatever they write, everyone, of course, has their own opinion.
Here is mine as a developer.
z-wave as an axiom, no Wi-Fi and other wires.
A single control center, as a server for all peripherals.
Management of the center and all peripherals from smart via intranet/internet.
Easily connect and reconfigure compatible devices.
Possibility to sculpt your own devices.
The ability to easily build scenarios, for example: change individually and in groups the degree of opening of loller-blinds, depending on the time, illumination from the outside, from the inside, the presence of people inside, other factors and conditions - to create comfortable conditions, with the connection of "gesture" mechanics for control triggers, etc. For example, when you turn on the TV or squat on the sofa, turn on / switch different lighting groups. Etc.
And Fibaro 2nd version can act as the basis of this center.
More expensive controller - more options.