Which city/region is the most attractive for a developer to move to permanent residence and why?

Question

coworking

I would like to know the opinion of habralyudey on this issue because it is relevant.

An approximate list of criteria is given below, although the list is, of course, incomplete and its addition is only welcome:

• Living conditions and availability of housing.
• Occupational salary/cost of living ratio (average).
• The demand for a profession in the IT field
• Probability of professional and career growth.
• The influence of clans and "royal blood" at work.
• The presence of other IT specialists who can not only “repair microwaves”, but also do it on their own.
• The initiative is NOT punishable.

I understand that most residents of the capitals and other megacities will only laugh at many points, but I assure you, it can be worse.

If you lived/worked in several cities, write your personal opinion about everything.
A huge request when writing reviews immediately begin with the name of the city and region.

PS This is not a public opinion survey for the purpose of publication, but a very real problem of choosing your colleague and, I believe, many Habr visitors too. Please take it seriously.

PPS The need to publish this issue has matured due to the complete failure at the present time on the last 5 points in the place of actual residence at the present time and the almost complete absence of changes for the better over a decade of work in the region.
I am not naming the region itself yet, so as not to divert the discussion away from the main topic.

Answer 1

St. Petersburg
- there is a demand from other regions
- there are visiting developers (the ones I personally know: Belgorod, Minsk, Tomsk, Novosibirsk)
- rent prices are lower
- - payment is slightly lower than in Moscow time, but it suits them

Answer 2

Palo Alto?

Answer 3

DS. The possibility of initiative and other things depends more on the employer. Although, if there is one employer for the whole city, for which you will not be overqualified, then, of course, such an approach has a place to be (I theoretically argue, I lived in the region, but did not work).
In general, the most interesting thing is to live in the region and work remotely there (through odesk, for example, someone can unsubscribe in the comments).

Answer 4

I will join the author of the question. Recently, I don’t see any options other than Default City. In my city, too, a solid scoop for the most part (parallels and kaspersky only sit). But I don't want to go anywhere either.

Answer 5

Here it is necessary to build on the level of knowledge.
- If you are a cool specialist in some kind of IT field, then you should go to the capital or St. Petersburg.
- If you are not a cool specialist, then you can stay in place and study, study and study again.
- If you are not a cool specialist who wants to earn very good money, then you should think about moving to remote cities (Siberia, the Far North, the South of Russia). There is a growing demand for IT-specialists and pay more. Many of my friends have successfully moved to Siberia, while one even works in Grozny - the money is good.

Answer 6

On Habré there was a topic about a contest among bloggers with a story about where it is better to live. Among the criteria were two of those listed. Some bloggers also wrote about work in general.
In one of the very first comments, they really noticed that "the results of the survey showed that it is better not to live in Russia."
If we ignore the dreams of a house next to the forest and your own Internet channel for work, your car, a bunch of kids ... Oh, it's gone.
In general, it is worth taking a closer look at other cities with a population of over a million, coming after two capitals: Kazan, Rostov, etc. In my opinion, business is somehow developing here. There were all sorts of start-up weeks across the country. If, again, you do not take corruptionspecific conditions of Russia as a whole and specific regions, then these are ideal places to start a business. Moreover, theoretically, money is being poured into it now, and there should even be a lot of state orders: all areas are “computerized”.
Z.s. I was even offered to do one project for the Ministry of Emergency Situations in the fall of that year =D

Answer 7

Come to us, to Krasnodar.
-Professional studios units. (And to tell the truth, they don't)
-Many people are engaged in ordinary hack work, not a hack, doing everything on time, at a price.
- Demand is high.
-You can earn more money on this than you will need to spend on accommodation (although rental prices bite).

Answer 8

Novosibirsk is the largest municipality in the Russian Federation. (St. Petersburg and Moscow are federal)
Work here - rabota.ngs.ru/vacancies/search/?rubrics []=5&other2=yes
Rent here - arenda.ngs.ru/
The rest depends on the employer.
There are enough of them in Nske, after all, a metropolis.
There is work both in IT companies and in large trading (others)
There are events designed to shape the market (you can’t say that it’s a mega-wow, but development is going in this direction)
sibinetweek.ru/
www.devpoint.ru/
There is “kind of support authorities”
interra-forum.ru/
www.int-park.com/
Of the minuses
— cold in winter. up to -40
- there is no sea like in Krasnodar
- there is no beautiful architecture and the spirit of antiquity as in Moscow and St. Petersburg
- a metropolis
In general, of course: everywhere it's good where we are not :-)
Correctly they write above: laptop, Internet, odesk = Goa

Answer 9

In my opinion, Moscow in Russia fits all criteria, most of the large cities are not in Russia in developed countries.

Answer 10

Why are you limited to default_country? Why not take a swing somewhere further away from default and closer to civilization, well, say, the same Canada, or a more passive alternative - the United States? (more passive, because there is only one possibility to go there without relatives - the green card lottery - google: 'dv lottery')

Answer 11

My own experience: Since 2005, I worked in Nizhny Novgorod: NN.RU, a branch of MAIL.RU
- the salaries were sufficient until the market was oversaturated, and mail.ru was more “Moscow”
After Moscow, I worked in two Internet companies and realized that only branches of large offices with a well-organized labor process can work in IT in Nizhny Novgorod, this second period of work in NN was terrible as for a professional ... Imagine a RAM in an Internet company on which Everyone is sitting with paper notebooks (!)
Now I work in a studio of 3 people in my native Dzerzhinsk, Nizhny Novgorod region, the salary is above the average for the city, there are no money and time costs for daily movement to Nizhny Novgorod (this is at least 3 hours a day) - I think so, sooner or later awaits any stubborn person and professional.
I am a coder, a bit of a designer, an interface developer.
At the moment, if I go somewhere and go abroad

Answer 12

I will share my personal experience.

• Krasnodar. Prices are practically Moscow, incl. for housing and food. At the same time, salaries are local (1.5-2 times lower). The problem of "royal blood" is particularly acute. As noted above, there are practically no professional studios, but no one needs them there, because. the region is clearly not up to the advanced in informatization. The phenomenon of kickbacks, “gratitude” to higher authorities and salary accrual is flourishing. The ultimate dream of many local IT specialists is working in a bank. Salary ceiling - 40,000 rubles (for department heads, after n years of service). Busy traffic jams for work in the morning.
  Damp and humid climate. The summer is hot, very hot. In winter and autumn, it often rains instead of snow.
  Pros: the sea is "close" (100 km).
  
• Los Angeles. Oddly enough, not so many people live in the IT city itself. Most live in Palo Alto, San Francisco and others like them. It is quite possible to find a job in Downtown. Starting even on a trial period s/n from $2000 (for hands). This is quite enough to live comfortably.
  The traffic jam problem is one of the biggest in the world, but there is an air-conditioned subway. True, public transport is not very well developed, mainly buses.
  Pros: palm trees, Hollywood, Disneyland, Beverly Hills, Malibu, Pacific Ocean, etc.
  Mild climate all year round. In summer, however, it is hotter than in Krasnodar.
  Cons: one of the highest taxes in the country, very unimportant ecology due to the famous smog.
  
• New York. Finding a job in IT is even easier than in Los Angeles. The salary is also comparable.
  The ubiquitous metro eliminates the problem of commuting to work.
  Pros: Statue, museums, memorable places, the Atlantic Ocean, a large Russian-speaking community (relevant for those homesick).
  Cons: probably the highest taxes in the country; there is a constant feeling that US IT is concentrated in California.
  

Answer 13

A programmer in C, C # in St. Petersburg can really earn from 100 kilo rubles. I know those myself.

Answer 14

Go to Kiev :) There is a
lot of work, salaries for good specialists are at the level, housing is much cheaper than in Moscow, the climate is again better.

Answer 15

Cross out Stavropol and KMV accurately. 20-30 tr is the ceiling for salaries in IT, even for heads of IT departments and technical directors with exorbitant job requirements. Renting housing - at least 10 tr. Prices are not lower than in Moscow. The only way out is freelancing, but freelancing is better in beautiful places, which Stavropol does not belong to. In three months I will “come in large numbers” to the DC, with which I congratulate myself.

Answer 16

What about system administrators? Do you have a degree in software engineering, 3 years of experience, certificates from MS?

Answer 17

Come to Georgia :)

Answer 18

Tell us about Kazan / Ufa, who is in the subject? Interested in the situation with programmers, as well as system administrators (ciss, AD, etc.)

Answer 19

Chernozem? suburbs? Middle lane?
In general, choose a place in the first place where the body is most comfortable, that is, where health will not decrease exponentially in proportion to the hours spent at the computer.
Where, after even a hard work day, you can go outside, take a deep breath of oxygen and not exhaust gases. Where you can relax after work in a bathhouse, walk through the forest and swim in the river.
And the size of the salary, working conditions and the cost of housing are so relative that you need to think about this after your health.
You won’t earn all the money, you won’t hang out in all the clubs, you won’t find the perfect boss and users. But health can be saved very much (I am from Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug), lack of oxygen, cold weather all year round make themselves felt

Answer 20

+ for the detailed description. However, IMHO, the web studio market is also extremely close to glut, appearing and disappearing “like mushrooms after rain”.