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Pavel2016-04-18 23:47:42
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Pavel, 2016-04-18 23:47:42

Where to go to study as a programmer after the 9th grade?

So, I'm in 9th grade right now. I end badly, because very tired (dry knowledge that is difficult to apply in the future is depressing). Because I already managed to read a lot of articles about higher education, the desire to go to 10-11, and then the university disappeared.
I don’t want to describe here how many smart books I have read, in what languages ​​I can write hellowords, etc. I will say this, I have been programming in Delphi a lot and for a long time. Naturally, I know about opp, programming patterns, how to work with memory, how it works inside ... I did several projects (not simple ones), I have some experience.
In my thoughts to go to a modest college and spend time on self-study (fortunately, I learned this). But will it be easy then without higher education?

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Saboteur, 2016-04-19
@saboteur_kiev

Go to the tower.
Learn to be a programmer on your own. You need to learn to learn. Learn to get organized. Learn to work with teachers, with information that you don't like and probably don't need - but it will happen in any job, and it's useful to be able to deal with it.
Of the useful things that you can get on the tower - general literacy, mathematics, algorithms, English, general education, which will allow you to understand how the living world (and not an ideal computer) works.
In general, do not perceive education solely as the ability to program - broaden your horizons.
Learn programming on your own. There is a high probability of finding accomplices in the university to develop your project. Maybe in the department, maybe separately.

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D', 2016-04-18
@Denormalization

For 15 years of work, they asked me about VO .... zero times.
Of course, I’m lying, there were cases when they asked if there was a VO, but this did not play a special role.
Do you need VO or not - it's not for us to decide and advise.
Someone with VO earns $500/month, and someone earns $20k.
Someone WITHOUT VO earns $ 500 / month, and someone $ 20k.
If I were you, I would go 10-11 and then to the tower. The tower won't hurt. You can always leave at most.
PS
I don't have VO.

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evgeniy_lm, 2016-04-19
@evgeniy_lm

VO does not give anything, especially now that it has been turned into a banal trade in diplomas.
The problem is a little different. You need to understand that the direct writing of program code in real programming is a negligible part. A good programmer should know everything about everything and this knowledge is just given by high school, so it's worth finishing it. In general, real programming is no less tedious than studying at school, so you should be patient.
PS Information for reflection. All the good programmers I know have an education completely unrelated to programming.

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Vladimir Martyanov, 2016-04-19
@vilgeforce

Go to 10th grade.

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Philipp, 2016-04-19
@zoonman

You need to rethink your vision of the world.
There are no useless sciences, everything in life can be useful.
I have experience of employment in Russia and abroad.
Having a college and university helped me a lot in my job search. In Russia, they don't give a damn about education, with the exception of decent companies and government agencies, but in the USA this is the first question from a recruiter and the second from a potential employer.
Of course, there is always a chance to run into a front-end architect who does not know what port the web server is running on, but this is more of an exception than the rule.

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Nikita, 2016-04-19
@DVORYAN

VO only gives the basis, and even then not always.
Given your current knowledge, you may well develop yourself. I have a VO, but there is no sense in it. Not once has an employer/client/partner asked me for a VO.
My good friend also does not have a VO, he is an excellent specialist, in demand, he works a lot on projects in the USA and Europe. He earns decently, moreover, as you did not finish school, he left after the 9th grade.

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Neonoviiwolf, 2016-04-19
@Neonoviiwolf

Go to 10-11 grade + you need the first 2 courses of the tower (what the technologist teaches - xs) - this will be the minimum knowledge that is usually in demand from a programmer.

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Vov Vov, 2016-04-19
@balamut108

Any company has a staffing table, usually it determines what requirements for positions exist, etc. Usually all management positions require VO, but if you plan to be a programmer, then learn that normal programming requires knowledge of mathematics. Normal programming is when you start doing something more complex than websites and simple APIs. If you have decided on a profession - that's good, go to 10-11 and get ready to enter the norms. fakes like HSE Comp. sciences and so on.
If you still decide to go to college, then I recommend KP No. 11.

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igorch96, 2016-04-24
@igorch96

It seems to me that you first need to decide who to be in life, and only then select the sources and ways of obtaining knowledge. But the main thing that you need to tune in to live acceptable is that you have to study a lot and plow a lot. For the rule of "10,000 hours" has not been canceled. The rest is details...

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