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falwxey2018-07-14 23:00:21
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falwxey, 2018-07-14 23:00:21

What to do if you want to become a coder?

Hello. My problem is described below absolutely callous and not thought out.
Probably such questions have already been asked hundreds of times on this site, but I have no choice and I will ask the 101st.
Where to earn on the skills of a junior coder? Do not offer an office (attached to the house)
In short: I work at a government job, a day - three, time - a wagon, education - no it, obsessed with layout and freelance, I want to work a lot (I don't expect cosmic salaries), but do exactly what I like. I spent a year on this (training), to no avail, it is very difficult to find a job, I tried freelancehunt-weblancer-freelansim-fl.ru. These are edits for layout or wordpress and 1-2 orders for layout per month. I was sure that there would definitely be a chance at the last one - a fig! There is a feeling that most of the orders are fake (to maintain a "busy" exchange) and the most successful (probably studios) collect orders for several accounts. Offered work for a review many times, almost no one responded, did it a couple of times, tried, now the work is available at localhost/...
I meet questions of the following content link (How to start working remotely or freelancing, if even projects at a meager price cause difficulties? ), and I understand that these same people sooner or later find their place, they don’t quit swimming against the current, and go to the bottom, it’s calmer there ...
Just take it, cross out this year from life, and start earning something others (arms straight, serviceman), no, it's simple and not interesting. How to be, do not write answers like "learn java and go work in toptal because there are no other ways" and so on, write just the way you would like to be answered.

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Alexander, 2018-07-14
@syschel

1. The question cannot be answered unambiguously.
2. Gain practice, even if you make orders "on the table", but better under the exchanges for the sale of templates.
3. The niche "typesetter" is all the same a laborer. A minimum of primitive knowledge, which carries a low entry threshold and, as a rule, great competition. And behind it and low rates. It is better to leave the layout designer for front-end developers. But first you need to understand how they differ from the "layout".
4. Frequent communication on thematic, like a toaster, resources, over time, also give their share of customers.
5. Remote work does not end with freelancing, you can work remotely and permanently. That is, look in the direction of sites about finding employees.

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lamer350, 2018-07-15
@lamer350

Typesetter - there is no such profession in IT in principle. Nowadays, better programs than any junior can make up, I myself am shocked by what kind of code you can get as an output. A layout designer is used as a position only in the CIS, and as mentioned above, this is at the level of a laborer, they won’t even let you typeset projects - at most they’ll put you in some studio on bug fixes, some senior on the front will quickly throw in the code in a couple of hours, and then you will spend weeks it will rake it up.
At least for starters, you should understand the popular areas of development, choose what exactly you want to do, study the supply and demand in the market. For example, there are few smart developers in swift, salary in Moscow time reaches 500 thousand rubles, literally on this site the other day I saw an offer of 400k / month. If the developer is intelligent, then companies, in principle, do not care where you work (in the office or at home).
But for now, you can still make money on layout. In freelancing, it is very important how you present yourself, you must understand that when you go freelancing, in addition to layout skills, you must have: legal knowledge (your rights and responsibilities), accounting knowledge (drawing up contracts, paying taxes), project manager skills (communication with customers, calculation of real terms and budget for the project, drawing up tasks for project implementation), any negotiation skills. You must develop all these skills, you must be able to present yourself, inspire the trust of the customer, ask the right questions and answer the customer in a language that is understandable to him.
There are individuals on fl who, with the help of one exchange, only on layout, went into circulation up to a million rubles a month in a couple of years (according to my conservative estimates). I don’t want to point fingers, but a person has grown a lot in 2 years, respect him! I was already bypassed, and just a year ago, clients came from him for a simple SVG animation, since he only did html / css layout, he didn’t climb into JS at all)

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Anton Filippov, 2018-07-15
@vicodin

go to upwork, there is no competition in layout, for 40-50 bucks per hour you can make up if you know how to do it right. For 3+ years, I have never seen a person on the upwork who knows how to typeset well, my clients have not yet met me either :))
But for this you need to learn English.
I saw that the question is about the junior layout designer, this is more difficult, fill your hand and take on simple projects at first.

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