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HoHsi2016-02-19 22:59:23
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HoHsi, 2016-02-19 22:59:23

What is the best way to take payment for work (fixed for volume / fixed for time / hourly)?

Good afternoon!
Faced with such a problem, the customer (company) offered to choose the payment method fixed for volume / fixed for time / hourly , given that I can sometimes stumble and write faster, this began to put pressure on my inner Jew.
In what form is it better to take payment (with greater efficiency in terms of money, and in general exhaust)?

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nirvimel, 2016-02-19
@nirvimel

Of course, this is a personal matter for everyone, and everyone makes a choice for himself based on his character, individual traits and (a little) out of the desire to outwit the employer (it is natural for the employer to reduce costs, i.e. outwit the employee).
But personally, I noticed one feature in people:
All this, of course, is nothing more than my personal conclusions, their truth is discussed.

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redakoc, 2016-02-20
@redakoc

You're not talking about that at all:
A fixed fee assumes that the entire project is described and priced.
Time payment allows you to perform any additional work as it becomes available.
These are even different types of project descriptions.

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Olga Wright, 2016-02-20
@OlgaRight

As a customer, I always have questions about what a watch means. I don't know how long it takes, I can be deceived. Just fix - understandable. To get it, you can multiply these planned hours by the rate. Here is the fix. And I won't have any doubts.

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Peter, 2016-02-19
@petermzg

"stubborn and write faster" does it mean day and night? So take into account all the hours and take for each hour.

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Sergey, 2016-02-19
@begemot_sun

Negotiate a subscription fee with guaranteed time allocation.
Let's say 100 hours per month for 10,000 rubles. Anything more costs 100 rubles/hour. If the company does not give you work, then at least you will be left with money.
PS Prices are taken from the ceiling.

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Puma Thailand, 2016-02-20
@opium

a large fix of $6,000 seems optimal here

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semki096, 2016-02-20
@semki096

I work like this. I study the terms of reference and estimate how long it will take me. Based on this, I form the price.

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Michael, 2016-02-20
@zuzuzu

In my opinion, the answer has already been here:
And depending on the agreement, additional time is either paid at such and such a tariff, or it's your own fault that you miss the deadlines ...
For example, look at the price list of the "computer" office. They usually have services just divided into "one-time" - with a predictable duration of execution, and time-based - those that depend on various factors.

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Nikolay Talanov, 2016-02-22
@Ronnie_Gardocki

If we are talking about small things (<5-10 hours), then you can agree on a fix (rate * hours) so that the customer is happy. Anything over this bar is hourly. Even if you have brains and are asked to give all possible estimates, anyway, in the end you have to work at an hourly rate. And it often happens that you count for 30 hours, for example, and then the client then plays with animation here, there he will take out your brains with something else, and hop, 40+ hours have already been worked out. And with work at a rate, you can fulfill any wishes of the client with maximum quality, without lowering your fighting morale and without sliding into graters because you want more money that the client does not want to give, because the budget was agreed earlier!
Well, of course, in order to work normally with an hourly rate, you need to be clearly cooler than most of the easily accessible "specialists" on freelance. I, for example, have never even used software for tracking time spent. I keep a primitive record in evernote notes (and sometimes it’s generally stupid in my head for approximate figures if they are less than 10 hours) and not a single customer has ever even tried to resist when I called the number of hours worked, and calmly paid everything in full.

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gaxetasok, 2017-03-30
@gaxetasok

Faced such a problem, the customer (company) offered to choose the payment method fixed for volume / fixed for time / hourly, given that I can sometimes stumble and write faster, this began to put pressure on my inner Jew.

If you are doing primitive work, then yes. Then fix. Quickly done, got a lot of money.
If the work is difficult - better hourly, all processing, innuendo, incomprehensible at the expense of the employer.

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Alexandra Mert, 2016-02-20
@alexsandramert

You answered your own question, take a fix for the amount of work done, although I'm more comfortable with an hourly rate.

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Yuri, 2016-02-20
@riky

in your conditions, when customers do not know what they want, I would recommend a scheme that is beneficial to both.
there will be many discussions with you of the functionality - for this you will be charged by the hour - it is difficult to predict how many hours you will stupidly chat.
by functions, agree on the functionality for small features, then you name the price of the feature as a fix (planned time * your rate).
if you agree, work, if not, refuse or think about how to simplify.
improvements for a fee.
thus, the customer initially understands what he will pay, and you can work faster if you want.
but if it's slower - of course you cover the costs yourself with your time.

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Victor, 2016-02-25
@5mbytes

I work constantly in a remote team for one customer, in fact, 160 hours of remote work per month. The rate is hourly - he wanted to leave, he left, no one is worried. Very comfortable, I hope we will work with him for a long time.

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